Which new Holland 75hp with the best cab?

[Robert_in_NY]

Ok, but the T6000 is the new kid on the block and should be around for some time? I am sitll a few year out from adding a 100hp(+) tractor to my team but I would sure like to have one.

The T6000 is more or less the TS-A. New Holland is updating their model names and going back to the old Ford style of using four numbers with the first number being the frame size. The TN is the 4000, TL/T5000, TS/T6000, TM/T7000, TG/T8000 and TJ/T9000. I am not sure exactly how the compacts are stacking up because there are multiple frame sizes so I imagine there is going to be split series like a T2000 and a T2500 to show a frame size difference. Tractors are basically all the same just the name changed. The TM was finally updated when they changed over to the T7000 but so far that was the only one I recall being a significant change. I also think the TT is going to be similar to what deere does and will become something like the T4003, The TDD will most likely follow suit as they are the same frame size as the other tractors but are more of a economy line.

The TS had a great reputation and when New Holland updated the TS to the TS-A they did a lot of changing. The tractor still has a great reputation and the updated TS-A has only been around 5 years or so and I expect the T6000 to be around for another 5 more with maybe minor updates here and there.

 

[mark.r]

On related note, these new TS-A or T6000 (or other brands for that matter), are they transportable by 5th wheel and F350?

 

[dgl24087]

On related note, these new TS-A or T6000 (or other brands for that matter), are they transportable by 5th wheel and F350?

That would be a tall order, T6010, 80 PTO HP, MFWD with cab, shipping weight of 10,383 lbs., height to top of cab 112.4 in.

 

[mark.r]

That would be a tall order, T6010, 80 PTO HP, MFWD with cab, shipping weight of 10,383 lbs., height to top of cab 112.4 in.

Hmmm, if you were haying with a 6000 series machine, how do you get one from site to site that maybe further you want to drive it. I don't see myself buying a semi.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Hmmm, if you were haying with a 6000 series machine, how do you get one from site to site that maybe further you want to drive it. I don't see myself buying a semi.

You just drive them. It is not uncommon to drive tractors 20+ miles from the base farm to a field. If you are needing a tractor the size of the TS-A for haying you are not going to be able to trailer the baler or discbine also.

 

[mark.r]

You just drive them. It is not uncommon to drive tractors 20+ miles from the base farm to a field. If you are needing a tractor the size of the TS-A for haying you are not going to be able to trailer the baler or discbine also.

20+ would not be a problem. But what if you needed to go further. I live on a major two lane highway that runs up through Virginia and on through PA. We see trucks trailering hay equipment frequently as if they are going to drop their equipment on large jobs for a couple week or so. What reasons could you not transport square/round bailers/disc mower etc. I could see T series tractor being too large but I swore I saw a F350/450/550 pulling a 100+hp John Deere a month or so ago.

 

[chh]

I trailer a MF 596(95hp)w/cab, MFWD, loader, and ballasted rears. Dry weight without the loader is close to 9000 lbs. I use a Dodge 2500(3/4 ton) and a triple axle trailer(21,000GVWR) with no problems at all. If I had gotten a slightly longer deck on the trailer it would be no problem moving it with a 15' batwing brushhog attached. Wind resistance with the cab seems to be a bigger factor than weight. My MF 4243 weighs nearly as much but is an open tractor and seems to tow easier. I see guys moving much larger tractors than mine with F 350's. We have guys roading tractors around here a lot on the 2 lane hiways. 20 miles isn't too bad. Especially of you have a cab and can relax and enjoy the tunes and air/heat for the hour or so your driving. I really prefer trailering to driving if possible though. Many balers are too wide to trailer easily.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

20+ would not be a problem. But what if you needed to go further. I live on a major two lane highway that runs up through Virginia and on through PA. We see trucks trailering hay equipment frequently as if they are going to drop their equipment on large jobs for a couple week or so. What reasons could you not transport square/round bailers/disc mower etc. I could see T series tractor being too large but I swore I saw a F350/450/550 pulling a 100+hp John Deere a month or so ago.

Most square balers are way too wide for a trailer and would require a lot of work to move a JD or NH square baler from field to field if you wanted to trailer it. You would need a forklift or heavy loader to get it on and off the trailer because it would be loaded sideways. I am use to square balers and didn't mean to imply round balers as you can transport a round baler still but it isn't very common with people I know and talk to.

The same problems are true for a discbine or Moco. A 3pt disc cutter would stick up even higher then the TS-A if you were using that to cut with and would cause you height problems for transporting.

Unless your road is posted against tractors or farm equipment you just drive up the road. I like larger roads better anyway as it gives the other cars an easier chance to go around you. If you live in an area that gets a lot of traffic and that bothers you then you move equipment during the slow traffic hours (usually early in the morning). Just make sure you have your lights working and SMV's on.

My neighbor drives over 50 miles to some of his bean ground. He drives his harvesters and tractors the entire way. It is impossible to move all this type of equipment with trailers because of how much disassembly would be required to load the trailer and stay legal.

As for the equipment you see being hauled around are you sure it is local farmers? Maybe dealers delivering equipment or haulers passing thru your area? The guys I know that do custome large square baling just drive from site to site and they put a lot of miles on.

Why all these questions? If you are worried a TS-A/T6000 is going to be too big then drop down to a TL-A or TN95A. The TDD line is very similar in size to the TS-A. You buy the equipment that best suits you, your needs and your area as not everyones farming practices are the same.

 

[mark.r]

Most square balers are way too wide for a trailer and would require a lot of work to move a JD or NH square baler from field to field if you wanted to trailer it. You would need a forklift or heavy loader to get it on and off the trailer because it would be loaded sideways. I am use to square balers and didn't mean to imply round balers as you can transport a round baler still but it isn't very common with people I know and talk to.

The same problems are true for a discbine or Moco. A 3pt disc cutter would stick up even higher then the TS-A if you were using that to cut with and would cause you height problems for transporting.

Unless your road is posted against tractors or farm equipment you just drive up the road. I like larger roads better anyway as it gives the other cars an easier chance to go around you. If you live in an area that gets a lot of traffic and that bothers you then you move equipment during the slow traffic hours (usually early in the morning). Just make sure you have your lights working and SMV's on.

My neighbor drives over 50 miles to some of his bean ground. He drives his harvesters and tractors the entire way. It is impossible to move all this type of equipment with trailers because of how much disassembly would be required to load the trailer and stay legal.

As for the equipment you see being hauled around are you sure it is local farmers? Maybe dealers delivering equipment or haulers passing thru your area? The guys I know that do custome large square baling just drive from site to site and they put a lot of miles on.

Why all these questions? If you are worried a TS-A/T6000 is going to be too big then drop down to a TL-A or TN95A. The TDD line is very similar in size to the TS-A. You buy the equipment that best suits you, your needs and your area as not everyones farming practices are the same.

Points, all well taken. First off, not my intention to derail the original point of this post. I simply don't know that much about the NH machines. As for all the questions, I was more concern as we own land in the tidewater region (about 3 hours travel time by car) and the ability to work the property down there would be nice. That's why hauling would be nice.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Points, all well taken. First off, not my intention to derail the original point of this post. I simply don't know that much about the NH machines. As for all the questions, I was more concern as we own land in the tidewater region (about 3 hours travel time by car) and the ability to work the property down there would be nice. That's why hauling would be nice.

How much land do you have there compared to where you live? The TS-A/T6000 is a great tractor but for the cost you can buy two great late 80's early 90's tractors of equal power and options (just not new and they don't have an amazing cab). But if your looking at a 3 hour haul between farms you will be eating up any profit in transportation cost.

There is a farmer up here near Lake Ontario who has a large vegetable operation. He also has a huge farm on the coast around Maryland (I can't remember exactly where). He runs all used articulated tractors and has equipment here and there as it would be impossible to shuttle most of his equipment back and forth and make any money.

Depending on just how big the land is I would look at going with a large gooseneck trailer and if you want to hay the ground go with a TN95A or what ever size TL-A you want and get a Massey Ferguson Inline small square baler so that it would fit on your deckover trailer. Also, a 3pt disc mower will stick up in the air and may cause a problem so you will want to talk to the dealer about what model will work best for your situation (as far as transporting and such). The rake may be a problem but a New Holland bar rake will sit on a trailer just fine but the rake edges will overhang the trailer so you will need to flag it and check your laws to make sure you do not need and special permits. If the rake isn't hooked to a tractor you might be able to turn it by hand on the trailer so it is angled and takes up less overall width. The NH bar rakes are usually quite light you can slide them around.

If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask as I don't know everything but will tell you what I have learned and others will jump in and help also. Just make a new thread (preferably in the ag forum as farming questions belong in there). Take care.