Who is your Health Insurance Co?

   / Who is your Health Insurance Co?
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#21  
It sounds like it really doesn't matter which Ins Co I go to, they're all pretty much playing games with the claims. So the main thing is to figure out policy price and company stability?

SHF

PS. What I've always wondered is why they want the Doc's to discount services. I'm not sure I want discount doctoring.
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co? #22  
<font color=blue>PS. What I've always wondered is why they want the Doc's to discount services. I'm not sure I want discount doctoring. </font color=blue>

Just remember what business they're in. They don't care about the quality, just their cost of payments.
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co?
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#23  
DocHeb

It appears to me they are in the business of gambling. They are betting I won't get sick and I am betting I will. If I go to the casino and say "well, I don't think the dealer's blackjack should count because he delt it with his left hand," I will be meeting up with 3 or 4 rather large gentlemen with pony tails.
But, it sound like this is exactly what the insurance companies do every day.

SHF
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co? #24  
<font color=blue>What I've always wondered is why they want the Doc's to discount services. I'm not sure I want discount doctoring.</font color=blue>

Its the old, "I have lots of volume (possible patients), if you agree to do services for these discounted fees then I will send you lots of work..."

"Actuaries" in the insurance business make a living from determining the odds of you getting sick. Yes it is a gamble on both the part of the insurance company and us as the consumer. The insurance companies just hope to find enough healthy people to offset the sick ones and of course they use emotional appeals to do this (fear). It pretty interesting to see how insurance companies rank the risk of different occupations, some of them just seem pretty funny. Did you know that as an occupation used car sales have the same risk factor as coal miners?
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co? #25  
Well, another great subject! We have had several HMO's, "PPO's", Insurance Companies or whaterer over the years, and I agree that most have their focus on the bottom line ($$, not your health). They try to weeeeeeeeaaaaar you down, to see if you're persistent enough to push them into paying your legitimate claims. If you roll-over, then they win.

I am also very conscious of the pickle this puts our Doctors in, where they need to see too many patients/day in order to make their fees add up to a reasonable income.

One thing that has worked for us in the past is to speak with "higher-ups" as soon as you feel the untrained are not taking care of your business.

One other tactic is to remind those "higher-ups" that they are "practicing medicine without a license" when they tell you the Doctor is doing something unnecessary.... and they are not paying for it. There is always a short silence on the line after you say that.... and many times the argument stops there.

We also learned very early on that we cannot be afraid to be considered "trouble" patients when dealing with Health Care business of any kind. There's another word for what my wife was called when standing up for what's right: *****. If that's what it takes to get what is rightfully yours, then "...sticks and stones..." etc.

Yes, many times it's an adversarial relationship, and most of the rules and grudgingly paid-for services came from the need for lawyers to get into the act, like "Caution: Coffee in this cup may be hot!".
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co?
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#26  
Well, BC/BS is out. The Realtors tried to get a group rate for the Northern Alliance members. We cover the entire North half of the State and there's 400 members. BC/BS said no way, you don't qualify as a group. The member in charge of investigating said he would hire every member and lease them back to themselves. BC/BS said no way, you don't qualify as a group because they would all have to work at the same place. So, we are currently looking at alternatives. I forwarded the MSA info. Maybe I can get something started. A group-rate MSA could be sweet, otherwise I'm going to go for an MSA for myself and the other 399 members can figure out what they want to do.

SHF
 
   / Who is your Health Insurance Co?
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#27  
DaveV

Coal miners and Car salesmen? Any idea why?

SHF
 

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