Who makes the BEST garden tractor?

   / Who makes the BEST garden tractor? #81  
Bob,

I downloaded the Ventrac 3000 PDF brochure (ventrac site), and on the front it says 26" turning radius and weight transfer system. Is the 16" radius you mention the uncut grass circle with the larger mower deck? How does the weight transfer system work? Nice machine

Duane
 
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#82  
I don't quite get the weight transfer system, but it seems to hold the weight of the mower deck right above the front axle to increase the traction. Very similar to the way architects cantalevier buildings and carry the weight back to a support beam . . . at least I think that is how the weight transfer system works. What I know is that the thing drives like it is glued to the hillside.

My wife also seems to like it. She mowed an acre field this morning just to get the feel for it.
 
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#83  
Duane the deck is more than a foot wider than the tractor yielding an uncut grass circle that is about 16" around, sorry about the confusion.
 
   / Who makes the BEST garden tractor? #84  
Yeah, but BUBVFCUT is kinda long! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

"Form follows function - that has been misunderstood. Form and function should be one, joined in a spiritual union. "
Frank Lloyd Wright

And now a break from our topic for a rant...

Oh for crying out loud, Frank! It is a tool. The beauty of it is in how well it works and how simple is it's design.

We had several pieces of Frank Lloyd Wright furniture in our house when I was a kid. My dad was an architect and construction specification writer. He came from Wright's era and was a big Wright fan. While the stuff was beautiful, it was very uncomfortable, rigid and unadaptable. If you moved it to another room, it looked out of place. Any Frank Lloyd Wright house that I have ever seen(and I've seen dozens) looked like a waiting room at a Psychiatrist's office(and I've seen a few of those, too). None of the Wright homes looked lived in. They all looked like architecture classrooms and gave me the creeps. Imagine being a kid and trying to set up a hot wheels track in a Wright home. Gaaa! The loop the loop would have put him in his grave! There were 4 Wright inspired homes on our block. I was never comfortable in any of them.

Sorry for the rant... Now back to our topic... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif What was it? Oh yeah... our tractors are ugly. I think yours looks much nicer than mine and it's function for its purpose is superb. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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#85  
Moss, I'll agree with you on the fact that the Ventrac is SLIGHTLY better looking than the Power Trac. But neither are beauty queens.

By the way, my house, which I had built, was designed by Walter Burley Griffin, a partner of Frank Lloyd Wright. The design was to have been built in Mason City, Iowa in 1912/13 but was never constructed. We substituted brick & cedar for stucco, converted 6 tiny bedrooms into 3 large ones, but left much of the design in tact. Oh, we eliminated the attached 1 stall horse barn and substituted a 3.5 car garage for practical reasons. On the exterior the windows are all in the correct positions, the footprint is virtually identical to the original, and the main floor is very close to original (we substituted a dinette for the maid's quarters).

We have bits of his stuff (reproductions) scattered throughout. His furniture is awful. But I find solitude and peace in the house. I like the concept of architecture as art and many of our walls have orignal mural work painted on them, or special multi color/layer paint finishes, consequently we have very little adornment in the form of pictures in our home. Lots of wood detailing and lots of paint.
 
   / Who makes the BEST garden tractor? #86  
Well, sorry to have stuck my foot in my mouth /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Maybe I have some other issues to deal with that probably shouldn't be discussed on TBN!... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I hate tiny bedrooms. Mine was about 12X8 as a kid. Half was closet and built in desk. One quarter was bed. That gave me a whopping 5X6 play area. I let my kids play all over the house and I love it... except for Legos... ever step on one of those in bare feet in the dark? Yeowch!!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I will say your tractor's dual controls sound interesting. That could come in handy at times.

Someone in another thread mentioned your weight transfer system. Care to elaborate on that some time? I'll watch your posts.
 
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#87  
Differences of opinions on houses have nothing to do with tractoring! My kid is a girl, not too big on Lego. She does like Playmobile and those small and scattered all over the carpet. Many are rounded, but some are sharp little critters and I seem to only find those pieces with my bare feet!

As for the weight transfer system, I really don't know how to explain it, but in simple terms it allows the tractor to bear the weight of the front implement directly on the front wheels which adds to the grip of the wheels in tough situations. The tractor is rated to cross a 20 degree slope, so I'm guessing the slope I mowed on Sunday was 25 degrees(?) because the tractor would slowly creep down the slope toward the bottom while cutting ACROSS the slope.

The amazing thing is that I was mowing across slopes that are difficult to walk up and the tractor was able to change direction and climb, or even do "u" turns around trees. All the while, the tractor NEVER spun a wheel or lost traction. The Ventrac CROSSES slopes with confidence that my Cub Cadet would decend virtually uncontrolled, and would lift the front wheels while climbing if the slope was apprached with too high a speed. So I may not quite get the weight transfer concept correctly, but I can sure attest to how it works in practice!!!
 
   / Who makes the BEST garden tractor? #88  
Bob,
Not sure what engine size has to do with the tratcor designation either, however the CUT designation seems to end about 40 HP. Sub-CUTS ???

Also CUTS and SUB-CUTS seem to only have been manufactured in the last few years. Is a Farmall Cub a CUT ? Is an 8N a CUT ? Are all CUT's 4WD ?

Mostly marketing hype I think.
 
   / Who makes the BEST garden tractor? #89  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Well, sorry to have stuck my foot in my mouth /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif)</font>

Not at all MossRoad. You spoke your feelings as a TRUE American should!! The way I see it, you just wouldn't like his house. No harm there!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Well, sorry to have stuck my foot in my mouth /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif)</font>

Not at all MossRoad. You spoke your feelings as a TRUE American should!! The way I see it, you just wouldn't like his house. No harm there!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )</font>


GerardD . . . I totally agree. When we built the house we knew people would either love it or hate it. To be honest, we don't really care what others think, it is on our property, 1/2 hidden by trees and a hill, and we are the ones who have to live with it. And like I wrote to Moss, personal choice in house design has nothing to do with tractoring.
 

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