I used to dig a lot of holes and bury good wood in it for my fences. :laughing: I found out a few things to extend the life of the post. One, I dig the hole two feet deeper than I want the post, then fill it with gravel (this lets the water drain). Two, I always make sure the bottom of the post is treated, for example if you cut a 10' post so you can save $$, you must put the treated part in the ground and top the post with a repellant (like roofing tar). Third, I add a cross-piece to the post about 6 inches underground. You can put it anywhere, but it keeps the post from turning. Just make sure the post is lined up. Fourth, I use dirt to hold the post into the ground. I use a 10' round bar to pack the dirt. Although this is tougher to do than concrete, I don't have to worry about the concrete eating holes in the post. I read about some fence posts put into the ground in England about 1880 which are still in good shape (unlike me :ashamed: ). Of course, they used whole trees with the stump as the base. The picture showed the base of the hole as being wider than the shank part of the hole, this allowed the base are to be very tightly pounded and packed. If using concrete, this would be a good way to ensure the post doesn't move -even in an eathquake :laughing: