Wood splitter rebuild

   / Wood splitter rebuild #1  

2diamondfarm

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TYM 574, Deere 4410, Gehl 353 Mini Ex
I have a splitter that runs off the tractor pto that I would like to beef up it wont always split some of the big wood I get .
All of the pumps I have found run at faster rpm than my pto , do they make a 540 rpm or even a 1000 rpm 2 stage pump for a wood splitter?
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #2  
I dont know of any pto pumps that are two stage altho it should be possible to build one. Pumps displace fluid according to the displacement area of the pump. The area is usually rated in cubic inches. A 1 cuin displacment pump will move 1 cuin volume of oil per revolution of the pump shaft. There are 231 cuin in a gal, so turn that 1cuin pump 231 rpms and it will pump 1 gpm of oil. With that known, you could possibly take a 28gpm two stage wood splitter pump, that is designed to run at 3600 rpms and run it behind a 1000rpm pto shaft and end up with two stage pump that produces around 7.5gpm of flow. This 7.5 gpm of flow would be the combined flow of the high side and the low side of the pump. Once pressure builds enough to dump the high flow and produce high pressure, the actual flow to cylinder would be much lower. In other words, your splitter would be pretty slow.

Lets say you do find a 2 stage pto pump for your wood splitter. You said your splitter wont always split some of the big wood. The problem might not be the pump. Your relief could be set to low not allowing the pump to build the full pressure it is capable of producing. If this is the case, all you might need to do is adjust the relief a few turns and have a power house of a wood splitter. You really need to install a gauge to see what pressure you are building when the splitter cylinder stalls and then see if the relief can be adjusted to allow more pressure build up.

Another possible factor of low power is cylinder size, if your pump can build the pressure and the cylinder still wont split the wood, look to see what size cylinder you have. Splitting power is a direct relation of pump pressure and cyl piston area. The larger the bore of the cylinder, the more force it can apply. Check your pressure and measure cyl bore before buying pumps or parts.
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #3  
Couldn't have said it any better.

Only one thing to add. Once you trick out your pump / valve / cylinder then you need to make sure that the beam and wedge will take the additional pressure.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#4  
Great info, it's not a pump like this image.jpg
The splitter is made like a trailer with the pump being powered with a pto shaft from the tractor.
I will get a pic in the daylight tomorrow
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #5  
It will be interesting to see what kind of pump setup you have. I am guessing that because you dont have a normal pto pump mounted on the pto shaft, you either have a gear box to increase the pump speed, or you have a large cuin pump, turning at low rpms, to power the splitter. Is this splitter homemade or factory build.
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #6  
What pressure are you running and is it adjustable?

Only two ways to get more power:
Increase PSI
Increase cylinder bore size

Need to know what the current pressure is before you consider increasing it. And need to know what the rest of the components are rated for. Cylinder, valve, hoses, etc. And make sure not to exceed that. IF you are already at the limit, get a cylinder with the same stroke, but larger bore. That will give more power, but proportionally slower.
 
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#7  
image.jpg
Here is a photo of the splitter
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #8  
I cant make out anything about the pump, picture to dark. Best uneducated guess is the pump is possibly off a dump/garbage/plow truck, or some other sort of equipment. At any rate, the rpms the pump turns is only going to effect the speed the cyl cycles. Force is going to be the pressure the pump can generate against the area of the cyl's piston. I noticed the wedge on the spitter is a spreader type of wedge. If the splitter is only having problems splitting the crooks and knarly wood, you might consider changing the wedge design to a thin knife type wedge. The knife edge wont pop the wood apart, but it will slice thru those knotty pieces easier than trying to spread the pieces apart.
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild
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#9  
Better picsimage.jpgimage.jpg

I think the pump did come off a garbage truck, could not read any of the info on the tag
 
   / Wood splitter rebuild #10  
If you want more power, you need to put a gauge on it and see what you are running now.

I wouldnt even consider increasing pressure without replacing all them hoses. And even then, if you are already at 2500-3000psi, there aint much power left to be had.

Its hard to judge in the pic, but it does look like a smaller cylinder. Maybe 3" or 3-1/2". If so, thats small for a splitter. I have a 4" and 2800psi and a knife wedge, even then, stringy wet elm sometimes dont split and I have to reposition a few times.

And as has been mentioned, spinning it faster isnt going to gain any power, only speed
 

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