Woodshed/boiler shed framing question

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ejb

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Hi guys,

Need some structural help. I am putting up a 12x24 foot woodshed/boiler room, using bigfoot/sono-tube piers every 8 feet down the long sides.

The boiler itself is going to way close to 1500lbs. What kind of framing would easily support 1500lbs (in a 2x4' area) without problems? I'd rather double and triple up beams/joists rather then add extra cement supports underneath if possible.

Thanks.
 
   / Woodshed/boiler shed framing question #2  
ejb said:
Hi guys,

Need some structural help. I am putting up a 12x24 foot woodshed/boiler room, using bigfoot/sono-tube piers every 8 feet down the long sides.

The boiler itself is going to way close to 1500lbs. What kind of framing would easily support 1500lbs (in a 2x4' area) without problems? I'd rather double and triple up beams/joists rather then add extra cement supports underneath if possible.

Thanks.

What is the actual footprint of the boiler? Is it 2'x4'?

Is the 1,500 pounds the total weight of the boiler when full of water? Or the empty weight? Water weighs around 8 pounds per gallon. How many gallons is it when full?

Is there a pan for it, or does it need to be raised from the floor?

How will you get it into the woodshed? and position it? and remove it for repairs or replacement?

Is it gas or electric?

Eddie
 
   / Woodshed/boiler shed framing question
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It is a woodboiler and total weight with water is estimated at 1500lbs. Tell me how to frame it for 2000lbs and I'll be even happier. 2x4 is the footprint of the boiler. I will raise in off the floor for ease of use - 8" is recommended.

I'll load it in with my tractor before the roof and walls are on - that shouldn't be a problem.
 
   / Woodshed/boiler shed framing question #4  
It sounds like you are going to have a crawl space under your shed. Is that right? If you poured a concrete slab (3 1/2" deep) instead of having a crawl space then your problem would be solved.

When I replaced the floors in our house, I installed a beam down the center of the room under the floor joists. I used Dek-Blockョ to support the 4x4 posts. I used two 2x6 boards, one on each side of the post and attached them with carriage bolts. I think I could park a Volkswagen in our front room and the floor wouldn't sag.
 
   / Woodshed/boiler shed framing question #5  
ejb said:
It is a woodboiler and total weight with water is estimated at 1500lbs. Tell me how to frame it for 2000lbs and I'll be even happier. 2x4 is the footprint of the boiler. I will raise in off the floor for ease of use - 8" is recommended.

I'll load it in with my tractor before the roof and walls are on - that shouldn't be a problem.

The simply, easy answer would to be for you to add another pier under the location of the boiler. With such a small footprint, the weight is concentrated at one location. If it's next to a wall, it's easy, if it's in the middle of a span, then larger lumber is needed. The weight isn't such a big deal, for the price of the larger lumber, you can just buy some sacks of ready mix concrete and pour a solit footing.

With the building being 12 feet wide, I would go with 2x10's, 12 ft long, bolted to both sides of your piers for your beams. Then I would run 2x6's on 16 inch centers for your floor joists. Depending on the floor height requirments, I'd use joist hangers for the 2x6's and block between the 2x10's.

Then cover with 3/4 T&G plywood using liquid nails and screws to hold it down.

If you wanted to support the weight of the boiler with just the lumber, I would just use 2x12's for the floor joists on either side of the location the boiler is going to be located and attach them to 2x12 floor beams. The load will be on those 2x12 and the price of upgrading to the larger lumber in that area would be minimal. If the boiler is centered on one of the floor joists, I'd use three 2x10 floor josts for support. It's overkill, but you will never have to worry about it and the extra money you spend is probably under $50 compared to going with the minimums.

Eddie
 
   / Woodshed/boiler shed framing question
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#6  
Sounds like framing it won't be a problem - I don't mind upsizing all the wood - as you say, very cheap to do now.


To be honest I'd rather have a full poured foundation with 4' frost walls and slab, but my cement experience is so far limited to piers and without full-proof step-by-step directions on how to get it right the first time, I'd be afraid to mess it up and have it heave or crack down the road.

Every time I have called a foundation guy locally he is usually scheduled out 3 or more months...piers I can do in a few days myself.
 

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