Would you buy a natural gas car?
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I wouldnt drive it if I could help it. The performance is a good bit different than gas, I'm spoiled I guess.
As for saftey, its hard to believe, but they are just as safe if not safer than their gas counterparts. It is a compressed flamable gas(3000psi), though the tanks are designed to contain it. Some of the Crown Vic police cars used CNG for years. The tanks have been tested to withstand high power rifle projectiles from what I have been told. They also have several shut off valves for saftey purposes most are automatic. The police bucked it because they didnt have the power or range. They are extremely clean burning and will last a good deal longer than a gasoline engine,but performance and availability of fuel is less than steller.
As for saftey, its hard to believe, but they are just as safe if not safer than their gas counterparts. It is a compressed flamable gas(3000psi), though the tanks are designed to contain it. Some of the Crown Vic police cars used CNG for years. The tanks have been tested to withstand high power rifle projectiles from what I have been told. They also have several shut off valves for saftey purposes most are automatic. The police bucked it because they didnt have the power or range. They are extremely clean burning and will last a good deal longer than a gasoline engine,but performance and availability of fuel is less than steller.
I think its another "give it time" thing.. Practicality is an important factor that isnt coming along like the technology.
If I buy one how do I fuel it?????? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I know you dont like diesel, but its a closer reality. Combine that with hybrid tech and its really practical. Time will tell..
If I buy one how do I fuel it?????? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I know you dont like diesel, but its a closer reality. Combine that with hybrid tech and its really practical. Time will tell..
I agree but when our company makes them for the space shuttle, business and the car field has been hot and not for years.
I like diesel, just show me all the data that supports it and what I get for the price. It is not all on fuel. I know I had a diesel truck.
Yes, hybrid works but what is the longevity of it and the cost. I looked at the Lexus Rx400h and for the increase in price (a few peanuts), it will take many years to break even, if at all.
I like diesel, just show me all the data that supports it and what I get for the price. It is not all on fuel. I know I had a diesel truck.
Yes, hybrid works but what is the longevity of it and the cost. I looked at the Lexus Rx400h and for the increase in price (a few peanuts), it will take many years to break even, if at all.
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I drive a duel fuel nat gas/ gasoline truck.3600 psi .You can't tell the difference in the performance between the 2 fuels. They have come a long way in the development of the conversion kits. I remember the with old kits you had to change over to gasoline just to get up a hill. Most of the big city transit busses run on nat gas because of the clean burn.I can tell you when on nat gas it eats spark plugs !
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You can't tell the difference in the performance between the 2 fuels. )</font>
That surprises me. I'm sure there have been improvements in the last 10 years, but when I was doing gas leakage surveys for gas companies, some of them had the dual fuel pickups, and at least in one major city, I know the supervisors had to fuss at the workers to keep them from using gasoline instead of the natural gas because the guys complained about the lack of power and acceleration on natural gas. And of course I know some of the police officers objected to cars with natural gas, both because of the range and the accleration.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I can tell you when on nat gas it eats spark plugs ! )</font>
That, too, surprises me. I would have thought that since it's cleaner burning than gasoline, the plugs would last longer, but I know nothing of the maintenance on natural gas powered vehicles.
That surprises me. I'm sure there have been improvements in the last 10 years, but when I was doing gas leakage surveys for gas companies, some of them had the dual fuel pickups, and at least in one major city, I know the supervisors had to fuss at the workers to keep them from using gasoline instead of the natural gas because the guys complained about the lack of power and acceleration on natural gas. And of course I know some of the police officers objected to cars with natural gas, both because of the range and the accleration.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I can tell you when on nat gas it eats spark plugs ! )</font>
That, too, surprises me. I would have thought that since it's cleaner burning than gasoline, the plugs would last longer, but I know nothing of the maintenance on natural gas powered vehicles.
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I have a propane powered 95 F700 Ford truck Im making a dump truck out of. Its ot a six speed and great torque. It runs about 75 mph at about 10MPG empty. Low end is a little weaker than a Gas engine but it has alot better topend than a friends truck that is the sister to this one. My neighbor has been working on propane liftrucks since the mid fifties and gave me a book stating that the propane was about 114 octane. I just bought2 1840 Case skid loaders one was a 97 model and the other was a 2000 boh on propane Im tgetting the gas company to set me a 250 gallon tank out here to use.
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I think that the mech. said that he has to set the timing in some way that it gives a hotter spark to fire the nat gas.This is the reason I think that it burns the plugs up so fast. Like I said most big cities now run there busses on nat. gas & they don't seeme to have a power problem.I know when I run out of nat gas & switch to gasoline I can tell no difference in performance.