So I'm new here and just starting to look for my first tractor, I've looked at Yanmar, Kubota, NH as well. One question about LS I have is with the backhoe and connecting and reconnecting it to the machine. It appears from the one video I found that when you disconnect the backhoe the actual subframe comes off along with the backhoe, the others I have looked at simply disconnect right at the back of the tractor without having that long subframe still attached. It seems from the video I saw putting the loader back on may be a real pain if you need to line that subframe back up with channels under the tractor. Any input on this would be much appreciated.
XR4150 backhoe question
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neverfailyou
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XR4140H (with backhoe) here.
Yup... it’s tricky because subframe is long and alignment is tight. I disconnect and remove on a flat surface usually on concrete. Then to reinstall I line everything carefully with the hydraulics and “stab” the subframe into the slots. I’ve gotten better and quicker. (It would be easier with another set of eyes). That said, I removed backhoe this week on my gravel drive for the first time. Let you know that works out.
Yup... it’s tricky because subframe is long and alignment is tight. I disconnect and remove on a flat surface usually on concrete. Then to reinstall I line everything carefully with the hydraulics and “stab” the subframe into the slots. I’ve gotten better and quicker. (It would be easier with another set of eyes). That said, I removed backhoe this week on my gravel drive for the first time. Let you know that works out.
Thank you so much for the reply. That concerns me a little now as this tractor would be used at my cabin a lot and there is not a nice concrete flat surface to make things easier. That's a shame they build them that way as opposed to just disconnecting at the rear of the machine.
In my opinion, the subframe mounting is superior to the other mounting methods because it puts less stress on the tractor. Busting the ears off cast iron housings could get expensive fast.
Supraman0614
Silver Member
My LS has the factory subframe BH. It takes about 5 minutes to connect it once you have done it a few times. I generally park it on a gravel pad behind my barn, but I've taken it off in the yard before with no issues. You back up and get it as centered as possible, hook up the hydraulics, and lift the frame, then back the tractor into it and drop in the two keeper pins. If it is not exactly aligned, you can use the boom to pivot it back and forth until it is aligned. My father has an older Kubota with a subframe backhoe and that is much more difficult to align. His has a pin in the front of the subframe, under the tractor that must be really close to slide in place. The LS subframe is set up so that the BH slides into a couple slots. It works pretty easily once you get the hang of it.
Thank you so much for this info, I'm going to revisit the dealer to see if he can show me how this works, I appreciate your insight into this!
Good point!
3Lfarms
Platinum Member
How it mounts up isn’t really relevant, they all have to be lined up correctly to engage properly.
The ladder style LS uses works fine, but it is a lot easier with a second person that knows what you are trying to do. Once it’s lined up properly, you hook up the hydraulics and raise the whole thing up and adjust the angle front to back using the boom and bucket, then back up until you can drop the pins into place.
The ladder style LS uses works fine, but it is a lot easier with a second person that knows what you are trying to do. Once it’s lined up properly, you hook up the hydraulics and raise the whole thing up and adjust the angle front to back using the boom and bucket, then back up until you can drop the pins into place.
Thanks for that. I assume based on the design the loader hangs back farther then the other style that Kubota or the like uses. Does this weight hanging back a little more make the front lighter? Like I said I'm new to tractors and in my mind that weight hanging out back there seems like it would make the front end lighter because of mechanical advantage, or do implements weigh about the same, I would think the backhoe is about double the weight of an implement you would use, but I'm as green as it gets when it comes to tractors. Thanks again for your input.
