Buying Advice YM2000

   / YM2000 #11  
I think you would be happier with a ym2000 series or higher for food plotting, the 186 is kinda small to do any plowing. But if the ATV was doing it the 186 can, I use mine mainly for food plots and couldn't imagine going smaller then the 2000, i sold my ym2001 for a ym2210. Good luck

Im with you smoody. If your ptting in 1/10 acre plots that have been done yearly for a long time or have real sandy soil, i think the 1500 size would be ok. But even my small sized fod plot is close to 2 acres depending on what i plow up that year but always atleast 3/4acre. I really would not want a smaller tractor and this is the only one i do. Even bushhogging both tractors will turn a 4fter. I just have more power in reserve with the 2000. When the grass is tall and thick its all the 2000 can do to cut in 6 out of 8 gears with the 4fter, the 186 id imagine you would slow a good bit more. When i cut i try and get 5 acres or so or more, i dont want to go slow as id like to do something else that weekend.

I did do a 4 acre food plot with my 2000 one time, that seemed to take forever. It was old pasture that i busted up for the first time in at least 6-8 years is my gues maybe double that amout of time. It had 4 ft fescue on it. I cut it then we had a big Kubota cut it once with a transport disk (the 5fter there would just ride on the grass even with 300+ lbs on it. But i still had to go back and deepen his plowing and bust it smaller. I used a fied cultivator then disk.
 
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#12  
Well, the die is cast. Money already changed hands.

I guess the good news is I'm only looking at a couple acres. I'm doing half that now with an atv so I still think I will be better off. I have to believe that even a 4 ft rotary cutter will be better than a pull behind swisher . Sandy loam soil so not the hardest stuff to work.

Oh well, now I can start my search for an upgrade.
 
   / YM2000 #13  
Congratulations on your purchase! The 186 is a nice tractor. Is yours 4 wheel drive? Post some pictures!
 
   / YM2000 #14  
If u doing it with an ATV now you have 10x the machine you have, and yes a 4fter behind that tractor can probly cut an acre that has 4-6 weeks of summer growth in a little over an hour.
 
   / YM2000 #15  
Congrats, I went from a 18 hp JD gas rider (300 series) to the 186D and have cut my finish mowing time down, and cut my fuel use by 2/3. I mow about 5 ac. of hilly lawn. Used to use about 4-5 gallons of gas, now use only about a gallon of diesel. It feels like a lot more HP than the 18 that it is rated at, and I am using 5 foot attachment without any problem. For finish mowing I find that I mow in 2nd range with the power shift in ether 2 or 3 depending on where in the yard I am (trees, holes, buildings, pond, ect) good luck with your purchase.
 
   / YM2000 #16  
My Ym2000 will turn a 6 ft finish mower in yard grass. If you have really long grass say 4 weeks worth it will bog it down but if you cut regular, there is no problem. I can drive as fast as i can steer it or as many bumps as you can take.
 
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#17  
Now for the dumb questions. I know that I've got a small for task tractor but I'm gonna give it a go and upgrade if it takes too long to get what I want to do done.

I have a 4 ft. Rotary cutter and carryall that came with the tractor.

As far as other implements on my wish list, I want a box blade, landscape rake, disc harrow and maybe a 12" single bottom plow.

I assume 4' implements are about all I can pull. Can I get away with 5' on the rake? I want to clean up dead limbs and debris left from clear cutting

On a disc I'm not sure what I can pull. Soil is sandy and I have disced a fair size plot with a groundhog max atv disc so pretty easy ground to break relatively speaking.

Impart your wisdom gents.
 
   / YM2000 #18  
4 foot implements match a 186D very well. They will do more, in some conditions, but you'll be able to use the implements to their full capacity. One nice thing is the Powershift transmission does a good job at transmitting power efficiently but giving some flexibility in speed. I have 4' box blade, disk, and brush mower behind my 186D, and have run a 2 bottom plow and 5 1/2' disk. They work, but require slow speeds, and are a bit too much implement.


My 186D has cast iron weights in the rear, water filled tires front and rear, side/belly mount cultivators, and up to around 250lbs in front weights. I've never weighed it, but it must weigh around 2000 lbs without me on it: The published weight for the tractor alone is 1538 lbs per Yanmar, and estimating 250 lbs of water in the tires, another 175lbs of wheel weights and another 100 lbs for the cultivators, it's over 2000 lbs before the operator is on or the front suitcase weights are added. Barring a few freak occurrences, my tractor always runs out of power before traction. My tractor is also ballasted more than normal.


With so much mass, this little Yanmar does an admirable job pulling ground engaging implements much larger than it has any business handling, but the size of the implement itself sometimes works against the tractor, with pins too high, for instance. For moving loose fill, I'm sure the tractor would handle a 5' or 6' box, especially of light construction, but you won't be able to lift or work the box if it's full of spoil, or budge it if the rippers are down in hard soil. Basically, it's more productive (faster) for me to use a weighted-down 4' implement like the disk and go at a faster ground speed than it is to use the larger implements. My soil is likely heavier than yours, though.


If you found a light 5' disk, you'll probably be able to use it just fine, but I doubt it will break fresh ground as well as you would like. Using a ballasted 4' disk will give better results for you in that respect. California talks some about the differences between using a bigger disk vs a smaller disk of otherwise identical characteristics with his 186D here and earlier in the thread, comments 2 and 5 specifically. He has since added 150lbs of wheel weights, and has remarked that the tractor pulls much better, even in 2wd (which more mirrors my results).


You'll be able to handle a 12" plow in your sandy soil, or any 4' disk quite well. I doubt you'll have a problem pulling a 5' (or even an angled 6') rake for collecting loose limbs and debris. With the 4' disk, I expect you will be able to add sufficient weight to freshly break and cut up any soil that will grow crops without irrigation. Using a plow first may let you use a 5' disk, but I doubt you would save much time, if any. If your food plots are small anyway (say, 150' square) the 4' disk will be all you ever need anyway: Just ballast it to cut deep enough, and go for it. A potato plow/middle buster may be cheaper or easier to find than a plow.


Comparing the 186 to your ATV with the Groundhog on it: I've never actually used one, but have seen their videos. The main appeal seems to be speed: Getting into a place quickly with the ATV, then ripping around with the disk down. It appears to do an adequate job in soft soil, and it seems like the ability to put the machine's weight down onto the implement will let it cut ok, but it doesn't process the soil anywhere near as much as my 4' disk will with 100 lbs of weight on. The tractor implements will do more, although it will seem much slower. You're going to process the soil more with the tractor; I'm not sure it will matter for your plots. What do others in your area use?

You'll enjoy using your new tractor. Post up some photographs of the work you do with it!
 
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   / YM2000 #19  
his 186 might have a lil easier parts support though..
 
   / YM2000 #20  
I use a 4fter disk in our clay/loam soils here in SC. ITs all that is effective with my ym2000. I have used the 5fter lienback that california has used and it will work in predisturbed soil but not as well as the 4 and i have to go slower. I use my 4fter with close to if not more than 200lbs most of the time. i have about 180lbs of front weight to keep my front down, so that goes to show you how heavy my 4fter is balasted, with out the weight its is in the air and i have to steer with brakes, with weight its almost off the ground. To give an idea of weight i figure the disk balasted weights over 600lbs. I think im right as i can lift and easy transport a 6 ft finish mower bushhog brand, its published weight i think is 560+lbs.
 

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