Rear Remote Hydraulic Attachments / Implements

[Colgate2004]

Hi all,

I'm new to tractors and currently researching my first purchase (likely a 25-35HP compact). The subject of rear hydraulic remotes has popped up a couple of times and I'm trying to figure out if I need them or not. I've done a lot of Googling and searching the forums here on TBN, but I still don't feel like I have a good grasp on all the various types of implements I might want to use that require remotes and which don't (I also have encountered what appears to be conflicting information... does a 3PH-mounted log splitter require a hydraulic remote, or not?).

I think I understand correctly that, for example, a simple box blade does not require a remote (it has no moving parts), but to adjust the angle of the blade (other than by manual adjustment of the lower links) would require a remote... a rotary cutter doesn't require a remote (it's powered by the PTO), etc.

What kinds of attachments / implements require remotes? If folks could give me some examples of ones I might want to be able to use that I couldn't without remotes, I'd really appreciate it.

Thank you for the help!

- Chris

 

[JRobyn]

I am in the process of adding rear remotes to mine. One thing I have heard (true?) is that it will cost less to get them as part of the original purchase than to add later. Suppose this might be true for OEM; maybe not for aftermarket.

I mainly intend to use top & tilt with my box blade for road grading, but will also get a 3rd valve "just in case". Our road has slight ditches on one side, the other, both, or neither, depending on how the surrounding terrain lays, so the "tilt" should be VERY useful. And I've found that very slight adjustments on the "top" make a huge difference in how the blade cuts and/or smooths. Our road varies too much to make manual adjustments feasible. I REALLY look forward to being able to easily and quickly do this on the fly from the seat.

A rear log splitter would require a rear remote OR could be quick-connected into existing FEL connections with long hoses.

I will likely also buy a land plane in the future that could use T&T, but that's really just a variation on a box blade.

 

[JRobyn]

One other major point that will probably come up for you; OEM or aftermarket. My thoughts on that here: (post #20)
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/354277-adding-rear-hydraulics-l2250.html

 

[Colgate2004]

Thanks Robyn.

I'm looking for a few examples of attachments that require a remote. Any help there?

Thanks!

 

[LouieJunior]

I'm looking for a few examples of attachments that require a remote.

My rear remote supplies my loader 3rd function for grapple and tree puller up front

Can disconnect hose for use with rear Stump Grinder and Hydraulic Top Link

My Log Splitter uses my power beyond circuit -- different than rear remote controlled by joystick.

Log splitter needs continuous supply.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Do you need remotes? No
Do they make life easier? Yes
Do you want them? YES! Get as many as you can. I have 4 and wouldn't want any less.
Does a 3pt log splitter need remotes? Yes, either a power beyond loop or a set of remotes with detent/or bungee to power it

A lot of the same attachments can have either a hyd setup or a manual adjuster. It all depends on your preference and pockets.

My rear blade will have one soon to replace the pin for angle
My snowblower has 2, chute rotation and deflector but these could just as easily be manual adjusters
I have hyd top link
I am building a log grapple
My backhoe plugs into one
I've got a hyd dump wagon
My log splitter
1 of my 4 remotes is plumbed to the front for grapple and bucket QA


Basically anything that has a moving part held with a pin/linkage could also work with a hydraulic cyl. Sometimes it's a cross between being lazy (efficient) and creative as to what to add a cyl to. I build the majority of my own stuff so I add them wherever I can.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Typically with the size tractor that you are considering, most people do not get hydraulic actuated implements. Hydraulic actuated implements are commonly though of to be used with larger tractors than what you are looking at.

If you need to use a log splitter, than either a power beyond source or a rear remote can be the hydraulic source for the splitter.

If you plan on doing much grading with a box blade, then a hydraulic top link makes things much better-easier. If you need to grade on an side-side angle, then a hydraulic side link could be a great addition.

With a lot of grading, people often get rear blades, it is extremely beneficial to have a hydraulic angle feature for the blade to be able to control the angle of the blade from the tractor seat.

Those are a few common examples for the tractor size that you are considering.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

One other major point that will probably come up for you; OEM or aftermarket. My thoughts on that here: (post #20)
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/354277-adding-rear-hydraulics-l2250.html

On my B3300, I didn't get the factory kit for the same reasons you got it -- Factory integration, or lack there of in my case. I readily admit that on some machines they fit in nice but others, like mine, they look like a horribly designed after-thought. Factory mount for my machine just hangs it off the outside of the ROPS begging to be caught on stuff. $1000 for one spool from Kubota compared to $600 for my set of 4.

 

[nybirdman]

I have the third function for the front to control my snow-plow and grapple;I have no need for rear remotes.
I use a box blade,rear scraper blade,two bottom plows,cultivator,York rake,middle buster plow and two different bush- hogs.They are nice but not totally necessary.

 

[Colgate2004]

Ah, CDN Farm Boy, MtnViewRanch, that is exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you so much!

One question though:
I understand the difference a hydraulic side link makes, in that it can be moved (lengthened/shortened) instead of being fixed, therefore tilting the angle of a box blade, etc., but I don't understand what the hydraulic top link does... are not all 3 point hitch top links actuated to be able to raise and lower the implement attached to it?

Thank you!!