Liquid filled tires

[greg_g]

Forgot to mention that - unless you live in a bog - there should be little concern about loaded R4s cutting ruts. They're wide for a reason, it's called the "footprint". That means how many square inches of tire tread is supporting the tractor at any given time; pounds per square inch of tire contact. Narrow ag type tires (R1) can and do rut in many conditions; small footprint.. And ballast makes them cut even deeper. R4s are meaningfully wider, and R3s (turfs) are often even wider. These respectively larger footprints simply provide more square inches of tire distributing the weight over a larger patch of ground.

//greg//

 

[Diamondpilot]

Got lots of experts on this thread huh Cleat....

I used windshield washer fluid. Got a smokin deal at the local auto dealership. 180 gallon for $200. Filled to 12 oclock is perfect. I pumped mine in similar to how you did it. Kinda slow but worked fine. And like you,,, locally the tire shops wanted an insane amount of money to add RimGuard.

You'll notice a big difference of the tractor's ability now.

Lastly, didn't realize the myth of straight anti-freeze freezing was still alive??? Guess they better quit storing it in unheated warehouses and hauling it in unheated trucks huh...

Same here. I use WWF. Last time I bought it for $38 for a 55gal drum.

Like you they wanted something like $8 per gallon for Rim Guard.

Chris

 

[nrwdmk]

Holy crap! With all the fuss on this subject, I think that a heavy boxblade might be the best option. No toxic issue, no freeze point issue, its a usefull tool most tractor owners already have, you can pile inexpensive bags of quickcrete on it until you give out, and its weight is a better counterbalance for the FEL. Hmm...I think I have made up my mind.

 

[mikehaugen]

I was curious, so I had to look it up.

Ethylene glycol disrupts hydrogen bonding when dissolved in water. Pure ethylene glycol freezes at about −12 ｰC (10.4 ｰF), but when mixed with water molecules, neither can readily form a solid crystal structure, and therefore the freezing point of the mixture is depressed significantly. The minimum freezing point is observed when the ethylene glycol percent in water is about 70%, as shown below. This is the reason pure ethylene glycol is not used as an antifreeze謡ater is a necessary component as well.

this is from wikipedia, I guess the jury is still out on the validity of the info there, but I trust it... usually Ethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

other types are probably different of course.

 

[vtsnowedin]

A point many are missing here is that ethylene -glycol antifreeze as it comes out of the jug already has some water mixed with it. It varies by brand and you need to read the directions to get the right mix for that brand. A jug I have on hand has a chart on it that shows the highest protection at a 70% mix of that product as shipped with 30% clean water. You would have to look long and hard to find some shipped at 100% ethylene glycol but I suppose many have assumed the stuff they are getting is 100% without reading the label.

 

[greg_g]

Like you they wanted something like $8 per gallon for Rim Guard.

RimGuard is sold to all dealers at exactly the same price per gallon. Granted, transportation costs increase with delivery distance. But not enough to account for such a major discrepancy. I still have the receipt to document that I was charged $2.70/gal installed, and some members have reported getting it for even less. I think $2.32/gal was the lowest posted. Unfortunately RimGuard itself does not sell to the general public, instead guarantees exclusive sales territories to their dealers. Pretty good recipe for price gouging. So it seems pretty clear that the $8/gal you cite must include a significantly inflated "installation charge".

//greg//

 

[SPYDERLK]

Holy crap! With all the fuss on this subject, I think that a heavy boxblade might be the best option. No toxic issue, no freeze point issue, its a usefull tool most tractor owners already have, you can pile inexpensive bags of quickcrete on it until you give out, and its weight is a better counterbalance for the FEL. Hmm...I think I have made up my mind.

What about when youre pullin it?

 

[cleat]

Well, I just got done grading my gravel drive and was at one time pulling with the box scraper full to the top on level ground and there was no noticeable wheel slip at all. 2 weeks ago I would have required 4WD and I can now do it in 2WD.

I am a happy camper.

Cleat

 

[ovrszd]

Well, I just got done grading my gravel drive and was at one time pulling with the box scraper full to the top on level ground and there was no noticeable wheel slip at all. 2 weeks ago I would have required 4WD and I can now do it in 2WD.

I am a happy camper.

Cleat

And that my friend is the goal!!!!

 

[Diamondpilot]

RimGuard is sold to all dealers at exactly the same price per gallon. Granted, transportation costs increase with delivery distance. But not enough to account for such a major discrepancy. I still have the receipt to document that I was charged $2.70/gal installed, and some members have reported getting it for even less. I think $2.32/gal was the lowest posted. Unfortunately RimGuard itself does not sell to the general public, instead guarantees exclusive sales territories to their dealers. Pretty good recipe for price gouging. So it seems pretty clear that the $8/gal you cite must include a significantly inflated "installation charge".

//greg//

Yea, I remember a setup fee of like $50 per wheel.

WWF is common practice here.

Chris