telescoping links for B7800

[BlacknTan]

Well, I've been doing my homework, and I'm pretty well decided on the B 7800. The only feature of the B 3030 that interests me is the telescoping links for the 3PH.
So, my question is this. How much could it possibly cost to change out the links to the telescoping type from a 3030? And is it really even worthwhile?
I'm 57 years old with 2 bum knees, broke both elbows and presentlt have a torn up left shoulder, but, I still can hump things around pretty good.
Any thoughts??

 

[BlacknTan]

Well, I've been doing my homework, and I'm pretty well decided on the B 7800. The only feature of the B 3030 that interests me is the telescoping links for the 3PH.
So, my question is this. How much could it possibly cost to change out the links to the telescoping type from a 3030? And is it really even worthwhile?
I'm 57 years old with 2 bum knees, broke both elbows and presentlt have a torn up left shoulder, but, I still can hump things around pretty good.
Any thoughts??

 

[bbse]

You might just look at Pat's quick change system that is advertised on this board. Seems like everyone that has it likes it. I am saving up for a set myself.

 

[bbse]

You might just look at Pat's quick change system that is advertised on this board. Seems like everyone that has it likes it. I am saving up for a set myself.

 

[canoetrpr]

I've got a L3400 and decided that if needed, for comfort of changing attachments, I'd just get a Pats since my machine did not have the telescopic links either.

 

[canoetrpr]

I've got a L3400 and decided that if needed, for comfort of changing attachments, I'd just get a Pats since my machine did not have the telescopic links either.

 

[Bob_Young]

As long as you're thinking about the 3pt. hitch, Black'nTan, and planning to use 3pt. implements; make sure you understand the difference between the 'quarter inching' 3pt. control valve on the B7800 and the position control on the B3030. The Kubota literature makes 'quarter inching' sound like a great feature when, compared to position control, it's anything but.

Having known only position control on Ag tractors for decades, I'm now acquainting myself with 'quarter inching' on a new B7610. It's a definite step backward....though it appears it can be made to work well enough for my purposes.

Position control lets you set the implement where you want it by moving the control to a predetermined position. The implement then moves to a setting that corresponds with the control position and is held there automatically by the hydraulic system.

Quarter inching is more a matter of 'inching' the implement into the position you want and then locking the hydraulic flow system to keep it there....at least that's how it appears so far. To move or raise the implement you have to first unlock the flow control before changing its position. Workable but awkward.

I really like the B7800 and prefer its 'old school' look to that of the B3030; but needed something smaller. If that hadn't been the case, I would have opted for the B3030 for the position control alone. You might want to ask your salesman if position control is an option on the B7800.

If you've covered this ground already, I apologize for wasting your time.
Bob

 

[Bob_Young]

As long as you're thinking about the 3pt. hitch, Black'nTan, and planning to use 3pt. implements; make sure you understand the difference between the 'quarter inching' 3pt. control valve on the B7800 and the position control on the B3030. The Kubota literature makes 'quarter inching' sound like a great feature when, compared to position control, it's anything but.

Having known only position control on Ag tractors for decades, I'm now acquainting myself with 'quarter inching' on a new B7610. It's a definite step backward....though it appears it can be made to work well enough for my purposes.

Position control lets you set the implement where you want it by moving the control to a predetermined position. The implement then moves to a setting that corresponds with the control position and is held there automatically by the hydraulic system.

Quarter inching is more a matter of 'inching' the implement into the position you want and then locking the hydraulic flow system to keep it there....at least that's how it appears so far. To move or raise the implement you have to first unlock the flow control before changing its position. Workable but awkward.

I really like the B7800 and prefer its 'old school' look to that of the B3030; but needed something smaller. If that hadn't been the case, I would have opted for the B3030 for the position control alone. You might want to ask your salesman if position control is an option on the B7800.

If you've covered this ground already, I apologize for wasting your time.
Bob

 

[riptides]

Hello,

Somewhere on this discussion board there is a detailed description of how to do this, part numbers, number of parts and a diagram. Unfortunate that I cannot find it. I remember those posts because I printed the diagram off. I'll keep hunting.

-Mike Z.

 

[riptides]

Hello,

Somewhere on this discussion board there is a detailed description of how to do this, part numbers, number of parts and a diagram. Unfortunate that I cannot find it. I remember those posts because I printed the diagram off. I'll keep hunting.

-Mike Z.

 

[Toolguy]

I don't want to pile on the B7800 but, when I was looking to buy a new tractor last year I looked first at a B7800 because of the lower price. However, after comparing it to the more expensive B3030 I could not see one thing that the B7800 was better at than the B3030. The B3030 outshines the B7800 in every aspect and if you think it is easy to add the B3030 features to the B7800 then why not just get them all with the B3030 and be done with it. Two things that don't get mentioned very often when these two models are compared is the cruise control and the tilt steering wheel. On the B7800 you have to pick a speed with the hydro pedal and then set a lever to lock it in cruise mode. With the B3030 there is a lever that allows you to drive the tractor forward with your right hand without even touching the hydro pedal. You can take your hand off of the lever and the tractor will stay at that speed. To tilt the steering wheel on the B3030 there is a small pedal on the floor that you step on with your left foot. It makes tilting the wheel such as easy thing to do you won't know how you lived without it. And, tilting the wheel up and out of the way makes mounting and dismounting the tractor much easier than if the wheel is down in the driving postion.

The other feature of the B3030 that can't be emphasized enough is the difference between position control and 1/4 inching. The position control alone is worth whatever price difference there is on these two tractors.

Th Pat's Easy Change system costs about $200. You won't need that with the telescoping links on the B3030. Subtract that $200 from the price difference.

Whatever you decide, just be sure that you are going to be happy with it in the long run. I am 55 myself and in pretty good shape, but I am not getting any younger. The comfort and convienience features of the B3030 will mean more as time goes on. Why make working with your tractor any harder than necessary. The difference in price is just a small percentage. The difference in comfort and ease of use is worth every penny of that difference, IMHO. Good luck.

 

[Toolguy]

I don't want to pile on the B7800 but, when I was looking to buy a new tractor last year I looked first at a B7800 because of the lower price. However, after comparing it to the more expensive B3030 I could not see one thing that the B7800 was better at than the B3030. The B3030 outshines the B7800 in every aspect and if you think it is easy to add the B3030 features to the B7800 then why not just get them all with the B3030 and be done with it. Two things that don't get mentioned very often when these two models are compared is the cruise control and the tilt steering wheel. On the B7800 you have to pick a speed with the hydro pedal and then set a lever to lock it in cruise mode. With the B3030 there is a lever that allows you to drive the tractor forward with your right hand without even touching the hydro pedal. You can take your hand off of the lever and the tractor will stay at that speed. To tilt the steering wheel on the B3030 there is a small pedal on the floor that you step on with your left foot. It makes tilting the wheel such as easy thing to do you won't know how you lived without it. And, tilting the wheel up and out of the way makes mounting and dismounting the tractor much easier than if the wheel is down in the driving postion.

The other feature of the B3030 that can't be emphasized enough is the difference between position control and 1/4 inching. The position control alone is worth whatever price difference there is on these two tractors.

Th Pat's Easy Change system costs about $200. You won't need that with the telescoping links on the B3030. Subtract that $200 from the price difference.

Whatever you decide, just be sure that you are going to be happy with it in the long run. I am 55 myself and in pretty good shape, but I am not getting any younger. The comfort and convienience features of the B3030 will mean more as time goes on. Why make working with your tractor any harder than necessary. The difference in price is just a small percentage. The difference in comfort and ease of use is worth every penny of that difference, IMHO. Good luck.

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> However, after comparing it to the more expensive B3030 I could not see one thing that the B7800 was better at than the B3030. </font>

One thing that IS better on the B7800 relates to use of a PHD. The B7800 has a foot operated clutch, which allows one to start/stop the PTO with the foot, while twisted around looking at the PHD and lowering it with the 3PH control lever.

Converting to telescoping lower links is crazy expensive. A couple years ago I checked and it would have cost me over $400 for the parts. I was thinking of adapting the telescoping links like I have on my B2910 to work on my BX2200. The cost of those parts floored me...

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> However, after comparing it to the more expensive B3030 I could not see one thing that the B7800 was better at than the B3030. </font>

One thing that IS better on the B7800 relates to use of a PHD. The B7800 has a foot operated clutch, which allows one to start/stop the PTO with the foot, while twisted around looking at the PHD and lowering it with the 3PH control lever.

Converting to telescoping lower links is crazy expensive. A couple years ago I checked and it would have cost me over $400 for the parts. I was thinking of adapting the telescoping links like I have on my B2910 to work on my BX2200. The cost of those parts floored me...

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a thread from 2 years ago on changing 3PH to B2910 type. Click Here. Please be sitting down when you get the price. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a thread from 2 years ago on changing 3PH to B2910 type. Click Here. Please be sitting down when you get the price. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a thread from 2 years ago on changing 3PH to B2910 type. Click Here. Please be sitting down when you get the price. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Has anybody mention the chain turnbuckle type anti sway adjustments is a pain in the __________.

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a thread from 2 years ago on changing 3PH to B2910 type. Click Here. Please be sitting down when you get the price. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Has anybody mention the chain turnbuckle type anti sway adjustments is a pain in the __________.

 

[BlacknTan]

Thanks to all for your help. I agree that the position valve would also be a nice feature, but, as another poster said, I like the "old school look of the 7800.
If I was also stepping up in horsepower or capability, I'd consider the fancier tractor. This will be my first tractor, and I'll have to "pay my dues" I guess.
I appreciate everyone's time and effort, particularly in finding the old threads. It's helped me out alot.
I've learned alot from this site already........

 

[BlacknTan]

Thanks to all for your help. I agree that the position valve would also be a nice feature, but, as another poster said, I like the "old school look of the 7800.
If I was also stepping up in horsepower or capability, I'd consider the fancier tractor. This will be my first tractor, and I'll have to "pay my dues" I guess.
I appreciate everyone's time and effort, particularly in finding the old threads. It's helped me out alot.
I've learned alot from this site already........