Hello HammerFour
In response to your comments
<font color="blue"> </font> "You mention that there should be a switch to prevent it starting in gear, then you go on to mention situations where you start it from the ground or knock it into gear mounting or dismounting...... "
<font color="black"> </font> I 'm not the one that mentioned about knocking it into gear mounting or dismounting...... But fyi if you were sitting in the seat and then knocked it into gear while dismounting the tractor will shut off within a few seconds because of the operator presence feature.
<font color="blue"> </font> "The tractor already has a seat switch and a pedal neutral switch ( maybe more ). "
The seat switch (operator presence) doesn't work if you first start the tractor without sitting in the seat first. Other than the tractor shutting down after traveling 3, 6, 9, 12, 17 ft. there isn't any safety switch when first starting the tractor from the ground.
<font color="blue"> </font> "How many switches do you need to keep you from doing unsafe things?"
To protect a child, an inquisitive adult from starting the tractor from the ground, a least one. I repeat there none, zero, zilch
<font color="blue"> </font> "They could put in more safety switches but you if you don't follow the propery procedures ( don't start the tractor unless seated, don't dismount without setting brake and shifting in neutral and lowering implements/loader ) the operator can STILL find a way of making the tractor move from the ground or causing inadvertent movement by bumping levers while dismounting.... "
<font color="black"> </font> The point is no one was purposely doing anything to be unsafe. The situation occured because of a lack of a safety switch compounded by misinformation.
<font color="blue"> </font> "I think in this case the owners manual needs correcting, but thats it."
<font color="black"> </font> I disagree. Kubota should have put in a safety switch. At the very least, having to have the seat be tipped forward before the tractor can be started from the ground. But at a minimum, don't you agree every owner of the B3030 should be given the correct information to avoid a the potental danger. Seems like that would not only be fair but the right thing to do.
<font color="blue"> </font> "They have offered to buy your tractor back at full cost, which in my opinion is going above and beyond considering the lack of cause you have presented."
<font color="black"> </font> I sure have to disagree with you there. The reason they made said offer was because I had cause as does every other owner of a B3030. I just don't think that you understand this whole situation. I sure hope that the above information helps you to grasp the whole point of my interaction with Kubota.
Any other questions or comments?
John
In response to your comments
<font color="blue"> </font> "You mention that there should be a switch to prevent it starting in gear, then you go on to mention situations where you start it from the ground or knock it into gear mounting or dismounting...... "
<font color="black"> </font> I 'm not the one that mentioned about knocking it into gear mounting or dismounting...... But fyi if you were sitting in the seat and then knocked it into gear while dismounting the tractor will shut off within a few seconds because of the operator presence feature.
<font color="blue"> </font> "The tractor already has a seat switch and a pedal neutral switch ( maybe more ). "
The seat switch (operator presence) doesn't work if you first start the tractor without sitting in the seat first. Other than the tractor shutting down after traveling 3, 6, 9, 12, 17 ft. there isn't any safety switch when first starting the tractor from the ground.
<font color="blue"> </font> "How many switches do you need to keep you from doing unsafe things?"
To protect a child, an inquisitive adult from starting the tractor from the ground, a least one. I repeat there none, zero, zilch
<font color="blue"> </font> "They could put in more safety switches but you if you don't follow the propery procedures ( don't start the tractor unless seated, don't dismount without setting brake and shifting in neutral and lowering implements/loader ) the operator can STILL find a way of making the tractor move from the ground or causing inadvertent movement by bumping levers while dismounting.... "
<font color="black"> </font> The point is no one was purposely doing anything to be unsafe. The situation occured because of a lack of a safety switch compounded by misinformation.
<font color="blue"> </font> "I think in this case the owners manual needs correcting, but thats it."
<font color="black"> </font> I disagree. Kubota should have put in a safety switch. At the very least, having to have the seat be tipped forward before the tractor can be started from the ground. But at a minimum, don't you agree every owner of the B3030 should be given the correct information to avoid a the potental danger. Seems like that would not only be fair but the right thing to do.
<font color="blue"> </font> "They have offered to buy your tractor back at full cost, which in my opinion is going above and beyond considering the lack of cause you have presented."
<font color="black"> </font> I sure have to disagree with you there. The reason they made said offer was because I had cause as does every other owner of a B3030. I just don't think that you understand this whole situation. I sure hope that the above information helps you to grasp the whole point of my interaction with Kubota.
Any other questions or comments?
John
