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09-03-2012, 10:55 AM #1Elite Member
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Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
In another thread discussing generators-
I had written:
And got this response:
From reading on this forum I had been under the impression that if I stored my diesel properly (shaded, atmosphere proof full container) with a fuel additives for water removal and biocides (pick your favorites, I'm not trying to start a Lucas Oil vs XPD war) and then ran it thru a filter when I pump it I would have good fuel. I've left fuel in my E350 tanks and fired it up after two years (and finally replacing the glo-plugs).
Now I'm told it's impossible for me (a homeowner with 1 small tractor and a couple of diesel vehicles) to do.
I'm concerned because all my vehicles seem to be running well (my VW TDI is getting 44.5mpg around town!)
Prior to retirement I worked with a lot of National Guard troops who might fire up their generators once a year, and not empty the tank for a decade. I had always viewed properly stored diesel as lasting for years.
Are there special mixes not available to the homeowner to treat diesel?
What are some long times that you've been able to store diesel?My rides - '95 Kubota M4700, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, new Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and Woods thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all
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09-03-2012, 11:55 AM #2Silver Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
Who is telling you that it's impossible for a homeowner to store diesel long term? What proof do they offer?
I have stored diesel for many years with no problems. Biocide is the only thing I have ever used.
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09-03-2012, 12:07 PM #3Elite Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
My rides - '95 Kubota M4700, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, new Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and Woods thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all
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09-03-2012, 01:52 PM #4Silver Member
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09-03-2012, 03:09 PM #5Elite Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
My rides - '95 Kubota M4700, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, new Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and Woods thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all
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09-03-2012, 04:24 PM #6
Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
Have you thought about using mr funnel and a racor filter? This will allow you to filter out water when you pour in and while you are using it. I cant say I had the longest storage but I had a 5 gallon jug of diesel, untreated sitting in garage near the door getting morning sun and cooling in evening for almost 3 months a couple times. I treat when I pour in my tractor.
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09-03-2012, 06:32 PM #7
Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
YM2000. MF dirt scoop,4' Jbar bushhog,boompole, LMC 12-16 disk harrow, 4' Atlas boxblade (with rippers). 1980 chevy K10,1990 ford ranger 2wd (285K miles),1997 saturn SL2 (twin cam!!),2001Toyota Higlander
1986 Cobia 177 sunskiff w/1981 Johnson 60 hp
1991 Javalen 17ft w/same year 150 Johnson GT
Troybuilt 4 cycle & Echo 2 stroke,cold natured(need carb rebuild),MS390 Stihl, Northern tool pressure washer, mixes water into the oil in the pump(now dead, motor on a tiller). 5000 watt generator.
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09-04-2012, 08:31 PM #8Elite Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
My rides - '95 Kubota M4700, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, new Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and Woods thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all
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09-06-2012, 07:28 AM #9Gold Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
Storing the fuel inside and avoiding huge temperature swings will reduce the need for the tank to breathe. If you store it in a steel container and see moisture on the outside of the (can / tank) moisture can get in if openings are not closed or restricted.
Small sealed cans stored in a cool temperature stable location will keep diesel fresh indefinitely with no additives.
Additives are additional insurance.
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09-06-2012, 09:33 PM #10Bronze Member
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Re: Is it impossible for the homeowner to keep moisture out of diesel fuel?
I have 300 gallons of diesel in a 550 gallon above ground tank. It's 12 years old and still works fine in my diesel generator and oil furnace. I control the air flow in and out of the tank with two small check valves. One relieves pressure at 2 psi, the other relieves vacuum at 1/2 psi. The air going into the tank goes through a canister of dissicant to remove moisture. I added a quart of treatment several years ago. I live in the Pacific Northwest where we have plenty of moisture and wide temp swings.
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