Larry Caldwell
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I didn't read all the details, but didn't see where they controlled for obesity.You are looking at the numbers wrong. You might be comparing people with people-years?
By the end of the follow-up periods, nearly 22,800 people developed type 2 diabetes, and those who ate the most total red meat had a 62% higher risk of developing the disease, compared with people who ate the least. Eating the most processed or unprocessed red meat was linked with a 51% and 40% higher risk of type 2 diabetes, respectively.
The Keto diet - "More Heart Trouble for the Keto Group After an average of nearly 12 years of follow-up, individuals on a keto-like diet had more than double the risk of having several major cardiovascular events, such as blockages in the arteries that needed stents, heart attack, stroke, and peripheral arterial disease."
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I used to be diabetic, but am not any more, thanks to a 70+ lb. long term weight loss. Another 30 lbs. and I'll be to my ideal weight (215), so you can see I used to be morbidly obese, but am not any more. Shedding 70 lbs. was not easy, but I was motivated. I have friends who have died of diabetes. A neighbor down the road has had parts of his feet amputated because of diabetes.
My physician (a Chinese MD with a specialty in geriatric medicine) counseled me that diabetes can be controlled with weight loss and exercise. I listened. Red meat is very calorie rich, particularly the fatty cuts like prime ribeye. An example of my red meat consumption was a package of 93% lean burger, fried wiht the same amount of onions, and mixed with Sloppy Joe tomato sauce, so only about 1/3 is actually meat, the rest vegetable. Then I nuke a baking spud, mash it up, add a topping of Sloppy Joe, and that's a meal. We eat a lot of crock pot soup, often vegetable beef. My urologist says not to eat nuts because they are high in oxalates, and give me kidney stones. I have pretty much eliminated high carbs from my diet. No maple bars. No pancakes with syrup. Sarah Lee 45 calorie per slice multi-grain sandwiches. And no freaking pizza. Pizza is my downfall.
The secret to a healthy diet is a variety of meaty and planty bits. Fish and fowl along with red meat, plenty of vegetables, home made probiotic fermented foods like pickles and kraut, and drink water instead of soft drinks. Over the last 3 years my A1C has gone for 8.3 to 5.6. Dying from diabetes is not pretty. I don't know what will get me, but blood sugar is not going to be it.