I would also add that shock collars if used inconsistently can confuse the dog. The best shock collar training method that I have ever seen, actually teaches the dog that obeying a command is a "game" and that quick response lets them "beat" the stimulation. When properly done the stimulation is issued before the command and held until you have completed saying the command.. It is done this way until the dog has thoroughly learned the new command. As his mastery of the command is learned... slowly start making the stimulation come later and later until it is actually now coming AFTER the command has been issued. The timing is critical but stop the stimulation as soon as the dog BEGINS to comply. The dog eventually gets the idea that quick and immediated obediency "beats" the stimulation and it never comes to begin with. This reinforces good behavior and actually promotes using the collar less and less over time.
Consistency is key... you can ruin lots of training by using it improperly even a few times. Also never reinforce bad behavior, if the dog is doing something wrong like running in the road. Either leave him be, or use the come command. If the come command doesn't work, use the come command with stimulation, but never chase him or yell for the behavior to stop in an inconsistent way. He just won't get it.
The requirements of this type of training are a collar with continuous stimulation. I bought a combo unit from Innotek called the Deluxe Contain -n- Train for stubborn dogs. It has worked wonders along with the hours and hours of training I have dedicated to Methos (black lab/border collie mix).
Edit: Oh if you follow the good training practices, they don't associate the stimulation with the collar, only the "game" of beating it.
Consistency is key... you can ruin lots of training by using it improperly even a few times. Also never reinforce bad behavior, if the dog is doing something wrong like running in the road. Either leave him be, or use the come command. If the come command doesn't work, use the come command with stimulation, but never chase him or yell for the behavior to stop in an inconsistent way. He just won't get it.
The requirements of this type of training are a collar with continuous stimulation. I bought a combo unit from Innotek called the Deluxe Contain -n- Train for stubborn dogs. It has worked wonders along with the hours and hours of training I have dedicated to Methos (black lab/border collie mix).
Edit: Oh if you follow the good training practices, they don't associate the stimulation with the collar, only the "game" of beating it.