Filming in Public Places?

[Torvy]

Guys, I don't think my airspace extends indefinitely. The 400 ft that the FAA uses as a ceiling for drones seems about right. Not talking about shooting at manned aircraft. The "law' in this case is just a rule that the FAA made up. Like I said, i would be happy to be the test case to take it up the the court. They are not real keen on Executive departments writing laws that are the purview of the Legislative branch.

400 ft is a shot that could be made. In my case, I probably wouldn't shoot at anything that wasn't at 200' or less. Not going to mess with something in transit, either. I'm talking about the fundamental right to defend my property. If someone is hovering a drone over my property, it is my right to shoot it down if I can. The FAA doesn't supercede the Constitution.

 

[ovrszd]

Guys, I don't think my airspace extends indefinitely. The 400 ft that the FAA uses as a ceiling for drones seems about right. Not talking about shooting at manned aircraft. The "law' in this case is just a rule that the FAA made up. Like I said, i would be happy to be the test case to take it up the the court. They are not real keen on Executive departments writing laws that are the purview of the Legislative branch.

400 ft is a shot that could be made. In my case, I probably wouldn't shoot at anything that wasn't at 200' or less. Not going to mess with something in transit, either. I'm talking about the fundamental right to defend my property. If someone is hovering a drone over my property, it is my right to shoot it down if I can. The FAA doesn't supercede the Constitution.

Sometimes it's difficult to diagnose the intent. Especially in a crowded area. I take a lot of pics and videos for people during construction of new houses, etc. I might encroach on your property line unknowingly. If I do and you feel violated shoot my drone down. Then you and I can hash out the violation. My drone records it's flight path. Easy to determine. Even records my flight actions. The pic/video capture is also recorded.

All of this is stated not knowing your property size.

But I understand your defensive position. And I support it if a drone is "stalking" your property. Which I would never do.

 

[stumblinhorse]

Guys, I don't think my airspace extends indefinitely. The 400 ft that the FAA uses as a ceiling for drones seems about right. Not talking about shooting at manned aircraft. The "law' in this case is just a rule that the FAA made up. Like I said, i would be happy to be the test case to take it up the the court. They are not real keen on Executive departments writing laws that are the purview of the Legislative branch.

400 ft is a shot that could be made. In my case, I probably wouldn't shoot at anything that wasn't at 200' or less. Not going to mess with something in transit, either. I'm talking about the fundamental right to defend my property. If someone is hovering a drone over my property, it is my right to shoot it down if I can. The FAA doesn't supercede the Constitution.

The airspace thing says something like “to the heavens”. It really is yours. But in the US there is a public easement for aircraft. And you do have a right to privacy. So remote id laws were put in place so you can easily identify your stalker and find them with a phone app. I am def not a proponent of more laws but drones are so amazingly sophisticated there needs to be something governing the weirdo’s with drones.

 

[ovrszd]

The airspace thing says something like “to the heavens”. It really is yours. But in the US there is a public easement for aircraft. And you do have a right to privacy. So remote id laws were put in place so you can easily identify your stalker and find them with a phone app. I am def not a proponent of more laws but drones are so amazingly sophisticated there needs to be something governing the weirdo’s with drones.

I absolutely agree. That's why I couldn't believe the upgraded cameras on drones. I can spy on you in great detail and you'll never know I'm around. You can also buy aftermarket props that are 50% quieter than stock props......

 

[P0234]

I'm pretty sure today I have not been photographed. Never went to town. Only left the property and drove 6 miles one way thru the country to my Son's house and back. But you never know.

For the city dwellers, if they leave their house they are photographed. If money is made off that act or not I cannot declare. But the chances are very great.

I enjoy watching YouTube videos of street musicians. Some very amazing talent. During a single song, posted on YouTube generating advertising revenue, there might be 100 people in the background that unwillingly participated in the scenario. You believe each of them are entitled to a piece of the action?

The musician certainly deserves some of the video revenue if he is the subject of the video but not the "creator". Passers by, no.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I was in line at the bank last month and the woman in front of me pitched a screaming fit because I was standing too close to her. I was a good 4 feet away. It didn't matter that she was practically glued to the back of the guy in front of her.

It doesn't take much to set some nut jobs off.

 

[K5lwq]

I was in line at the bank last month and the woman in front of me pitched a screaming fit because I was standing too close to her. I was a good 4 feet away. It didn't matter that she was practically glued to the back of the guy in front of her.

It doesn't take much to set some nut jobs off.

You should have said, I am sorry, there is a spider on your back and it looks like a black widow but I was too far away to know for sure. Then she would have left the line and you could go ahead.

 

[MossRoad]

I was recently at the post office and noticed someone making a video of the place.

The reason I noticed is another customer was having a meltdown saying she does not consent to being filmed and was calling 911… yes really calling 911 for a person with a smart phone recording.

I just figure everyone everywhere in public is always being recorded with no expectation of privacy when out and about…

Can’t walk or drive down the street or be in a business or interact with law enforcement without being recorded it seems.…

Heck, when Doctors Lunches are delivered at work or transplant tissue arrives by courier they always capture the delivery and company ID of the person receiving…

From what I gather quietly recording in public isn’t a crime at least in California…

I use to show my cars at car shows and pictures even 40 years ago were expected… even found my car on front page of the local paper and had no idea until opening my morning paper…

Just curious if similar where other TBN members reside?

Having worked at the newspaper so long, it's prettty common knowledge that anyone can photograph or video record anything in any public space. Despite what people think about privacy, in a public space, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

One case in particular I'll share...
A local police officer was basically assassinated on a front porch. His killer went on trial (convicted). After one of the court proceedings, his widow was being escorted out of the courthouse by a group of police officers. One of our photographers photographed her. The officers asked him to stop, and he continued. Some of the officers took exception to photographing her and went after the photographer. He ran and they caught up with him, a scuffle ensued, and they permanently damaged one of his thumbs.

He sued and won damages.

Now. The point being, he had the legal right to photograph her in her time of grief, because she was in a public space. The law is pretty clear on that.

Now. Should he have photographed her in that state? Was he recording history, or antagonizing a widow? Should he have stopped once they asked him to? Or continued to document the entire story in pictures?

I don't want answers from anyone on those questions. That's up to you to decide for yourselves.

There have been numerous accounts of situations where one has to think about things like that.

 

[ultrarunner]

I wonder if the photos would have been discrete so no one knew at the time if that would have been an issue?

One thing is undeniable... can't go anywhere in the course of my day and not encounter dozens if not hundreds of cameras... from door bell motion to traffic to business big and small with governmental entities often being fully wired.

Yet, with all of the above a person with a cell phone recording in public is most likely to generate 911 calls.

 

[D&D]

There have been numerous accounts of situations where one has to think about things like that.

Personal feelings vs legal / illegal. Officers of the law are supposed to know the difference , often that’s not the case. The fall back position being they will let the judge decide. Would be nice if that burden wasn’t all on the taxpayers back.