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SDT

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Why is the thread on this topic below closed?

FWIW, the federales are driving multiple markets back to gasoline.

Like most cube dwelling federales, they have no idea that they are doing but will no doubt attack the gasoline alternatives once they realize that such alternatives are becoming successful.

Federales cannot leave anything alone.

Stay tuned.

SDT
 
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"It was closed because there was too much 'lightweight' banter being tossed around as scientific fact and it was stupid! I'm rich, I'm really rich and I could make a gas tractor if I wanted to but I don't. So to all of those who want one, I'm sorry. Diesel is where it's at. I don't have time for loser products"
 
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It went 60 pages and 599 posts. A round 600 would have been nice.

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"It was an even 600! You can't even count! I don't have time for people who can't even count! Sheesh!"
 
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I didn't follow the thread closely. Any idea why it was shut down?

Steve
 
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Because one of the members had blood coming out of his eyes.
 
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Who knows why it was closed. ... I was working on this post:

This is far and away the most entertaining thread on TBN at the moment (no i have no hard data, just my feeling). The amount of bullsh!t going back and forth is unbelievable. Can a gas engine be made to work, no doubt in my mind, I don't know if it is in the manufactures best interest to do it, maybe we could get a hold of a Kubota, Deere, LS, Daedong, etc. rep and ask them. I wouldn't mind seeing it I like choices. In the long run I don't think much would change, I doubt they'd sell many more tractors. As for the costs of fuel depends one where you are and what you do, but for putt putting around as people are talking about doing it won't cost a whole lit more to run whichever fuel is more expensive at the time. I bought a bigger tractor to have more capacity and be able to putt putt around at lower RPMs. where I am diesel costs a little more ~$0.10 today, but off road diesel costs much less and ethanol free fuel costs 4.49.



you're normally very good about not making mistakes but this is just flat wrong

shall we (red is mine)



so 9 tractors, 5 are in buickanddeeres guess of 50-100 hr/yr, or less, not much use, 2 are just over 100 at 109.9 and 116.3, to me that's closer to 50-100 hr/yr than the 1000 hr that has been thrown around in this thread, and 2 more in the low to mid 200s hr/yr.

i would agree with buickanddeere lots of people who buy tractors average 100ish hours a year or less, just my experience. no not everyone, and i would guess lots of the tractor enthuists on TBN are greater than that.
Short hrs/yr is not a foolproof indication that their use is light. -- Some people have more than one tractor. Typically those are used according to their ability and that means they are likely to be used hard for support during short but multi hour periods repeatedly.
... We easily put more than a thousand hrs per year on tractors, but we have 6, so it will be many years before we get many thousands of hrs on any of them. The JD 2010, the only gasser, is used the least because its lack of good brakes and power steering can make it a real chore to maneuver. Also, altho the tractor starts and runs perfectly I found that my tendency to use a substantial amt of its hp continuously in the field does not agree with it. Hence the reason I say that you can work a diesel harder.
 
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I didn't follow the thread closely. Any idea why it was shut down?

Steve

It was shutdown because it became personal. Posters would deny quotes from actual equipment manufactures as they did not like the info or the source. They would deny there are no light, medium and HD usage applications. They would claim that spark ignition engines need rebuilds every 1/4 mile and need 23 to 1 compression. They would claim that spark ignition engines blowup if reved to redline. They claimed there was no such thing as a class 8 spark ignition truck or an application for it. They claimed that there was no typical owner of CUT tractors that used them in "low' annual hours of usage and light duty vs HD operation by a large farming operation with large tractors. They claimed that spark ignition engines in forklifts were light duty and were not stressed. They claim that there is no spark ignition market for engines in industry and construction. They claimed that diesel engines in 2015 are the absolute best choice for every application . They claim that crude oil prices are now down and will stay down for the fordable future. They claim the price swings from high to low to high that have been occurring since the 1970's have ended. They claimed that the low price of diesel vs, gasoline, the simple reliability and efficiency that had existed since the 1920's until the mid 2000's still exists today with equipment built since 2007 and 2015 in particular. They claim that Tier IV emissions is the last we will ever hear of the EPA.
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Most of us would agree that in a mid to high power application. Operating for hours at a time . At full rated rpms and at full rated load. The turbo diesel is the better power plant .
 
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