Grading GC1720 - Deadheading hydrostat?

[Imold]

I could not get my tires to spin but then I realized if I put it low and was easier on the pedal and running about 21-2200 rpm I could work it hard enough into the class 5 gravel to get the wheel/wheels to spin, in high the tires would just stop and no tire spin, running with HST on these scuts definitely has a learning curve on how to get the most out of the drive system, heck I could not even back up a ditch with a 20* incline until I did some reading and realized I need it in low and I put it in fwd, would not do it in just high, had me worried when I first got it. I do like HST.

Now about the hydraulic pump/system, is the power beyond located on the fel valve body? I guess I will need to do some reading and if I can not get a answer there I’ll go to the dealer on Monday and see if the service knows anything.



Jim.

 

[k0ua]

I could not get my tires to spin but then I realized if I put it low and was easier on the pedal and running about 21-2200 rpm I could work it hard enough into the class 5 gravel to get the wheel/wheels to spin, in high the tires would just stop and no tire spin, running with HST on these scuts definitely has a learning curve on how to get the most out of the drive system, heck I could not even back up a ditch with a 20* incline until I did some reading and realized I need it in low and I put it in fwd, would not do it in just high, had me worried when I first got it. I do like HST.

Now about the hydraulic pump/system, is the power beyond located on the fel valve body? I guess I will need to do some reading and if I can not get a answer there I’ll go to the dealer on Monday and see if the service knows anything.



Jim.

Yes, the power beyond port is usually located on the FEL valve of most CUTS. An not being able to get the tires to spin in HI gear is common. But they should spin in LO gear.

 

[Imold]

Yes, the power beyond port is usually located on the FEL valve of most CUTS. An not being able to get the tires to spin in HI gear is common. But they should spin in LO gear.

Ya I am a Greenhorn when it comes to HST on a tractor and not one bit embarrassed about it, I bought it to mow more than anything else and with that 60 inch mmm it does a really nice job but as I use it I am finding more things to do and the more I do the more I realize I could of went with a CUT over a SCUT but it’s all a learning curve for me, I did not want to get something to big for my 12.7 acres of which 6 is cleaned now and mowed.

When I purchased the 1705 the salesman said it would be ok for my intended use but that intended use is growing and I did have a conversation about upgrading in the future and he said he would have no issues taking it back on a trade up, if this scut runs with little to no problems I can see myself getting into a 1734 in a couple years.

This scut will teach me about the use of HST and as far as Deadheading hydrostatic goes I think I have that figured out now.

Jim.

 

[k0ua]

Ya I am a Greenhorn when it comes to HST on a tractor and not one bit embarrassed about it, I bought it to mow more than anything else and with that 60 inch mmm it does a really nice job but as I use it I am finding more things to do and the more I do the more I realize I could of went with a CUT over a SCUT but it’s all a learning curve for me, I did not want to get something to big for my 12.7 acres of which 6 is cleaned now and mowed.

When I purchased the 1705 the salesman said it would be ok for my intended use but that intended use is growing and I did have a conversation about upgrading in the future and he said he would have no issues taking it back on a trade up, if this scut runs with little to no problems I can see myself getting into a 1734 in a couple years.

This scut will teach me about the use of HST and as far as Deadheading hydrostatic goes I think I have that figured out now.

Jim.

Jim, it is pretty common for guys to trade up in tractor size. It is almost a given. Tractors "shrink" in size as soon as you start applying them to your land. Heck it even happened to me here on this property and I have owned 5 tractors, Two before I came here. Occasionally though in tight quarters you kinda wish you had the little one back. But only occasionally.

I only have about 7 acres total, and a lot of that is not even tractor navigable. I have the tractor size I need now to get things done. With the little one, there was always a rock or log I couldn't lift. So I lusted for "more". I didn't buy some things with the next tractor I should have, things like SSQA (Skid Steer Quick Attach) and other things that make tractor life so much easier like telescoping lower links and stabilizers. And many other so called "luxury" features. There is nothing luxury about them, they are just common sense necessities. Especially as you start to "age in". if you intend to switch between forks, bucket and grapple, Well you sure are going to need SSQA.

Don't need a grapple you say? I beg to differ. If you have things to clean up and move around your place, you need a grapple. Logs, rocks, cleaning up brush, and downed limbs, yeah sure you can accomplish that the "hard way" if you so choose, or you can go out there and clean it up in minutes with your grapple. Again as you get older, the second option starts looking a lot better. Of course grapples, require hydraulic hookups.

So think about that in your way of thinking about a new tractor. Anyway, good luck in your tractor journey, and if there is anything I can do in the way of help from here let me know.

 

[Imold]

Thanks. I already know when I upgrade the SSQA and front remote and dual rear remotes will be a given for top and side links for sure and already have a grapple picked out as a first extra being my back blade and box blade will work on a CUT for now.

My wife and I have been given the first opportunity to buy the 40 acres next to our property(about 670 feet are up against our property line) when they decide to sell, they want to do a CFD when they offer it to us in about 3 years so I would like to have a CUT by then that way I will not be overwhelmed with the smaller SCUT and can have some money for a down payment.

I was out today with the 1705 and my new Piranha bar opening up about a 30x50 foot area of heavy brush/briers that I had no intentions on opening up so I gave the 1705 a good go at it, this is where I realized that a CUT would be a better tool to have for this type of work so if I take it easy on the 1705 I will at least have a nice unit to trade up with. I am very happy with the 1705 so far for what I intended to use it for it was the right choice.

Jim.

 

[jeepcj7]

Suggest trying it in 4wd.

 

[Imold]

Going out this afternoon and I will be dropping 1 to 4 scarifier teeth into the ground to see if the 1705 in turtle fwd and at 2400 rpm will tear any of the ground up or stop dead in it’s tracks from the sumac roots, I am running R4 tires and I will not over do it being I will start with one tooth and work my way up in depth and the number of scarifier teeth I have down. Call it a learning experience on my part.

Jim.

 

[Nacademus]

For science!!

Look forward to hearing back!

 

[Imold]

Well here is 2.5 hours of work and no deadheading the hydrostat, spun tires under load. I ended up extending the center tooth on the box blade and used it like a ripper and holy cow did I have piles of roots and sod, did that for about 1.5 hours and then I just kept running around with the box blade tilted just enough to cut high spots, I also found a good size rock to try out the Piranha bar on and it got it out.

Next time out I will drop all three teeth down half way and finish cleaning out the rest of the roots and leveling the ground, class 5 gravel will be used to level the whole area out.

This is when I started.

Getting the rock out.

What it looked like when I left today.



Jim.

 

[Imold]

There were a lot of high and low areas when I started but it all ended up fairly flat by the time I was done.


Jim.