Hydraulic fluid

   / Hydraulic fluid #51  
What's a few knuckles ...

I used a belt type wrench with a longer handle to get leverage.
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #52  
So, wait, they install the filter and paint over them? So the filter when bought new is the same color as the frame? 🤯
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #53  
So, wait, they install the filter and paint over them?
Yes they do. How else would they keep from painting the block’s oil seal seating surface 🤷
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #54  
So, wait, they install the filter and paint over them?
Yes they do. How else would they keep from painting the block’s oil seal seating surface 🤷
Just curious, as mine are not painted over. I’d assume just like a powder coater doesn’t paint bearing surfaces? Prep work? 😂
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #55  
A new JD comes factory with green filters. When you start to unscrew them you see black and maybe some white lettering on the other side and you realize it was just painted over from the factory. When you buy JD filters they are painted black.

I've been running that Triax synthetic hydraulic fluid. It's been working fine. The first fluid change is the most important IMO. Everything is new, with moving metal parts rubbing together, and you're going to have some metal debre that wears off. The screen in the transition/hydraulic in my JD 5075E was very loaded up at about 270 hours. Whether car/truck/tractor/etc I find that the first fluid change after break in is always the one with the most trash in it.
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #56  
Yes but its way too expensive
anyone use this below ?

FRAM F760 Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid may be used to lubricate all conventional points on an agricultural or industrial tractor as well as in any vehicle that has a common sump. Designed for use in farm equipment, off-highway machinery, industrial tractors, final drives, power take-off units, wet brakes, power steering units & hydraulic systems. RECOMMENDED APPLICATIONS: API GL-4 (Gear Oil); Agco-Allis POWERFLUID 821XL; Allison: C-4, C-3, C-2; Case New Holland (CNH) - MAT 3505 (MS 1209), MAT 3509 (MS 1230), MAT 3525, MAT 3540, MS-1207 (Hy-Tran Plus), MS 3506 (MS 1210) MS-1206 (PTF), MS-1205 (TFD-II), MS-1204 (TFD), M2C48-C, 3510 (MS-1317, GL-4); Caterpillar: TO-2; Clark - TA 12, TA 18, HR 500, HR 600; Dresser CED Trans/Hyd Fluid; Deutz-Allis Chalmers: HTF Power Fluid 821 XL, 272843, 25741, 246634, 25743; Fendt; Fiat-Hesston FNHA-2-C-200.00, FNHA-2-C-201.00, AF-8T; Ford-New Holland: M2C134-A, B, C, D, M2C41-B, M2C43, M2C48-A/B, M2C53-A/B, M2C77, M2C86-B/C, M2C91-A, FNHA-2-C-200.00, FNHA-2-C-201.00; HCE-102, HCE-102W; International Harvester: B-6 (Hy-Tran), B-5; J.I. Case: JIC143 (TFD), JIC144, JIC 145 (TCH), JIC 185 (TFD), MS1204, MS1205, MS1206 (Powergard), MS1207, MS1209, MS1210 (TCH); John Deere: JDM J20C (Hy-Gard), J20 A/B, J21A, J22, J14B/C, JD Type 303; KOMATSU; Kubota UDT; Landini Tractor Hyd Fluid; Massey Ferguson M-1141 (Permatran821 XL, PermatranIII), M-1135, M1143, M1145, M1129-A, M-1127-A/B, M-1110; Minneapolis-Moline; Oliver Type 55; Parker Dennison: HF-0, HF-1, HF-2; Renk Doromat: 873, 874A, 874B; Sperry Vickers: 35VQ25, M-2952-S, I-286-S; Steiger HTF; Valtra G2-08, G2-B10; Vickers I-29986-S, M-2950-S; Vickers Sundstrand - Hydrostatic Trans Fluid; Volvo VCE 1273.03, WB-101, WB-102; White Farm (AGCO) UHTF, Q-1826, Q-1802, Q-1766B, Q-1722, Q-1705, Type 55, Q-186; Yanmar; ZF TE-ML 03E, 05F, 06E, 06F, 06K, 06N, 06R, 17E, 21F; Belarus, David Brown, IMT, Kiota, Leyland, McCormick Farmall, Mitsubishi, New Idea, Renault, Universal, Versatile, Valmet.
I have been using the manufacturer's fluids and following their maintenance schedule, and I will as long as it's covered by warranty. Fluids are cheap compared to paying out of pocket for warrantied maintenance because the fluids weren't up to spec.
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #57  
So, wait, they install the filter and paint over them? So the filter when bought new is the same color as the frame? 🤯
Here ya go, took me a bit to find it. Post #4 shows the complete video; Yes, they do paint over the Hyd filter (at least with that particular model shown)... Skip to 4:23 and 5:10 of the vid for the primer/painting portions.

 
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   / Hydraulic fluid #58  
Yes they paint over the filters but no, the paint won't hold the filter in place. Unless they were applying the paint on the seal of the filters. Highly unlikely.

The only reason the filters are borderline stuck in the filter housings is because they thread the filters with the seal completely dry and then over tighten the cr@p out of it.
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #59  
Just sort of shocked, I've never bought a new piece of equipment with the filters painted over.
 
   / Hydraulic fluid #60  
What's a few knuckles ...

I used a belt type wrench with a longer handle to get leverage.
I have a pair of Knipex xxl pliers, they work very nicely on stubborn filters.
 
 
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