Xfaxman
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- Joined
- Feb 8, 2013
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- Location
- Guthrie, OK
- Tractor
- Toolcat 5610 G - Bobcat V417 - TORO+Loader
Punch out small copper discs and drill 1 mm holes or even smaller (depending on the speed you require) through their centres and fit one at each cylinder joint. Nip them up tight to compress the copper and make a perfect seal. This will restrict the flow and reduce the speed of travel.I got that fitting installed so all the hoses are in place. I found some minor leaks and fixed them easily enough. The thing that had me worried was would that old pump off the bale loader still pump. Well, it pumps alright!! The bale loader was a tractor towed machine so the pump was PTO driven at 540RPM max. The way I am running it is probably quite a bit faster. I'm guessing the engine is running a minimum 1200 RPM or more and the drive pulley to driven pulley cuts it down to half that. I'm going to have to find flow restrictors for all the cylinders as they're moving far too fast. The problem I'm having is sourcing those restrictors. Anyone know where to look?
Shaunshep, welcome to TBN and thank you for that suggestion. I may be restricting some more of the connections before this project is done. I brazed a couple and on others took bolts and drilled the centers out to 1/16th", then tapped the fitting to be restricted just far enough to spin the bolt in a few turns and cut the bolt off with a cutoff blade in my angle grinder. Your method sounds simple and effective; just not sure how I'll punch out the discs. I might just snip them out in octagonal or hexagonal shape and bend the corners down till they fit into or over the fitting and proceed as you described from there.Punch out small copper discs and drill 1 mm holes or even smaller (depending on the speed you require) through their centres and fit one at each cylinder joint. Nip them up tight to compress the copper and make a perfect seal. This will restrict the flow and reduce the speed of travel.
The new pump is in and after fabricating a mounting plate out of 1/4" steel plate I bolted it all together, connected the input and output hoses and was able to successfully test the operation of the cylinders. With the restrictors in place they all moved well without the previous issues so that was positive for a change. The temporarily installed pressure gauge showed good pressure in the 2000 psi range but it only registered any pressure when I moved the boom or dipper. I take that to mean the absence of backpressure in the system when no work is happening. I took the gauge out because I don't have a convenient place to mount it.I have been asked on a number of occasions what the specs for the pump are and have not been able to give an answer to that question - till now. Turns out that answer also explains what I have going on with the wonky operation of the hydraulics. The output measures a whopping 1.4 ci per rotation and even with stepping the speed of rotation down the volume of oil it tries to circulate simply stalls the pump or the engine or both. I have pulled the pump out and am about to install a .488 ci unit in its place. I'll need to make modifications to where the pump is mounted to accommodate dimension differences. While I'm at it I hope to install a pressure gauge so I can monitor that as well.