yelbike
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John Deere 2305 Compact Tractor Transmission and rear PTO failure
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Ray2015
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Yes...half way on glass viewer.
caseyhut
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Happened to me this summer as well -- rear PTO failed when brush mower hit a rock. Took to dealer and they estimated $8K repair = the value of the tractor. Dealer charged $500 for the diagnostic, pulled the chewed up gear and reassembled unit. So now I can't mow, but can still use the front end loader and I can still tow. Some folks suggested an insurance claim (homeowners) so I tried -- State Farm said they will not cover and know of no instance of covering. If others have had a difference experience, please let me know.
BeaconWoods
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Same story on my 2210. The dealer offered to write up something for the homeowners insurance company but I was not comfortable with the approach he intended to take. The reality was that I had hit a stump with the mower and insurance does not cover that. Belly mower still works fine as the mid PTO is upstream from the rear PTO.
yelbike
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If I accidentally hit a telephone pole with my car, it would be an insurable peril. I'm sure you did not have the intention to hit the stump and damage your tractor. I don't understand your reluctance to file a claim, unless there is more to the story.
BeaconWoods
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Hitting a stump with a rough mower on a farm is not a reimbursable event. The dealer knew that which was why he offered to tell the insurance company a different story.
Keith2305
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New member here...I have a 2010 2305 and a frontier 2048. I have used it a lot to clear my property. I have a slip clutch but have even stalled the tractor running over a stump or something that I didn't realize was there. Almost to the point where I have quit worrying about the PTO. Anyone who's had one apart think that this is caused by cumulative wear of the gears and I should be concerned? With the PTO selected and tractor off there is very little backlash in mine so I hope it is still healthy and I got lucky with the metalurgy the day they made mine 
jenkinsph
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New member here...I have a 2010 2305 and a frontier 2048. I have used it a lot to clear my property. I have a slip clutch but have even stalled the tractor running over a stump or something that I didn't realize was there. Almost to the point where I have quit worrying about the PTO. Anyone who's had one apart think that this is caused by cumulative wear of the gears and I should be concerned? With the PTO selected and tractor off there is very little backlash in mine so I hope it is still healthy and I got lucky with the metalurgy the day they made mine
Just make sure you loosen the clutch once or twice a year and allow the plates to slip. If not checked there is a chance the plates will stick together and not provide the clutch action you need. When tightening the clutch plates you should allow them to slip before the engine stalls. Your manual should provide torq specs for these bolts too.
Keith2305
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Yes I do slip it once a year...loosen the bolts and reset. It calls for a 4mm gap to be set but I'm at more like 5. I kept loosening and running it with witness marks on the clutch parts to find the max that it will hold in high grass. I have still managed to stall it on occasion. then again I've done that with the mmm when I ran over my sweatshirt I thought was tied to the roll bar lol.
yelbike
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New member here...I have a 2010 2305 and a frontier 2048. I have used it a lot to clear my property. I have a slip clutch but have even stalled the tractor running over a stump or something that I didn't realize was there. Almost to the point where I have quit worrying about the PTO. Anyone who's had one apart think that this is caused by cumulative wear of the gears and I should be concerned? With the PTO selected and tractor off there is very little backlash in mine so I hope it is still healthy and I got lucky with the metalurgy the day they made mine
The problem has really nothing to do with parts wearing. The issue is the housing casting which holds the outer bearing race on the inner end of the stub pto shaft can NOT withstand any force applied front to back or major side loading. Make sense? Probably not.
Basically if you put too much force pushing the pto stub. shaft into the tractor, it will break. Also a major torque or side load the same inner casting will break. I did it on a late model.
My root cause was a pto shaft that was too long. My expensive mistake. But anything that pushes the shaft inwards will do it. For example going thru a ditch with an attached implement wear the pto shaft compress entirely.
Some have done it with the mmm jamming a brick in between the deck and the blade.
The problem isn't with metallurgy but rather with thickness of the inner casting. That's what changed between the early version and the new version.