Looking at an Allis Chalmers 5015

[mgsolakis]

I'm looking for an upgrade on my Case 446 and I found an Allis Chalmers 5015 in good looking condition for a decent price. Are there good tractors? Would I be able to find attachments for it? Or am I better just finding a Yanmar or Kubota of a similar size? Thanks

 

[jeff9366]

Allis Chalmers 5015​

1982 - 1985 Sub-Compact Utility tractor Hinomoto built

Series:	5015	→ 5020
	5215 ↓

Production
Distributor:	Allis Chalmers
Manufacturer:	Hinomoto
Type:	Sub-Compact Utility tractor
Factory:	Osaka, Japan
Original price:	$6,549 (1985 )
The Allis Chalmers 5015 is the same as the Simplicity 9518.

Allis Chalmers 5015 Power
Diesel Engine:	18 hp 13.4 kW
PTO (claimed):	15 hp 11.2 kW

Allis Chalmers 5015 Engine

Toyosha 1.0L 3-cyl diesel

Mechanical
Chassis:	4x2 2WD
	4x4 MFWD 4WD
Cab:	Two post ROPS. Optional ROPS canopy.
Transmission:	9-speed gear

Dimensions
Wheelbase:	50.8 inches 129 cm
Length:	82.7 inches 210 cm
Width:	40.9 inches 103 cm
Height (steering wheel):	46.9 inches 119 cm
Height (hood):	40.9 inches 103 cm
Clearance (front axle):	13.7 inches 34 cm
Clearance (rear axle):	14.2 inches 36 cm

Allis Chalmers 5015 Weight
2WD Shipping:	1278 lbs 579 kg
4WD Shipping:	1448 lbs 656 kg

Power Take-off (PTO)
Rear PTO:	continuous
Rear RPM:	540 (1.375)

 

[jeff9366]

It appears the AC 5015 has a Category 1 TPH, so implements should not be a problem.

Other than mowing turf, a 1,400 4-WD tractor is not going to be capable of much ground contact work. A 2-WD model will be capable of less.

Parts probably difficult to impossible for a 36 year old machine, imported for just three years.

If it has a Loader the tractor will be very tippy due to high ground clearance for a subcompact tractor.

 

[jeff9366]

J.I. Case 446​

1972 - 1988 Model year 1972-19761977-1988 400 Series Garden tractor

Series:

444 ←

446

Production
Manufacturer	J.I. Case
Type	Garden tractor
Factory	Winneconne, Wisconsin, USA

Dimensions
Wheelbase	48 inches 121 cm
Length	72 inches 182 cm
Width	41 inches 104 cm
Height (steering wheel)	43.3 inches 109 cm
Height (hood)	38.5 inches 97 cm
Shiping weight	770 lbs 349 kg
Ground clearance	11 inches 27 cm
Front tread	33.5 inches 85 cm
Rear tread	31.5 inches 80 cm

 

[mgsolakis]

Thanks for the input Jeff, I mostly use the tractor for mowing grass, but I'd also like to be able to move boat trailers as well as put either a loader or dirt scoop on the back for moving soil around the property. I won't need to do any heavy duty dirt work. What you have you or anyone else on the form suggest?

 

[mgsolakis]

There is a Kubota L245DT which would be a little bigger with a wider wheel base. I would have to replace the tires with more turf friendly tires, not sure how much that would cost.

 

[jeff9366]

I mostly use the tractor for mowing grass.
I'd also like to be able to move boat trailers as well as put either a loader or dirt scoop on the back for moving soil around the property. I won't need to do any heavy duty dirt work.

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Looking at an Allis Chalmers 5015​

Moving almost any trailer will require front end weights, or the tongue weight of the trailer will have the very light tractor vertical, rather than horizontal.

You can certainly mow but be aware that the PTO is CONTINUOUS on this tractor.

I doubt the 1,400 pound A.C. will have enough traction to scive up dirt with either a TPH scoop, or a FEL bucket.


Finding an FEL for a non-standard 41" wide tractor would be a miracle. Then you would need numerous hydraulic bits and pieces to power the FEL. If you find a Loader, the tractor will be very tippy due to unusually high 14" ground clearance for a subcompact tractor.
( Parts probably difficult to impossible to find for a 36 year old orphan-brand machine, imported for just three years.)

 

[jeff9366]

Kubota L245​

1976 - 1985 L Series Compact Utility tractor

Production
Manufacturer:	Kubota
Type:	Compact Utility tractor
Factory:	Japan
Original price:	$4,000 (1977 )

Variants
L245:	2WD
L245DT:	4WD
L245H:	high clearance

Kubota L245 Weight
2WD Shipping:	1825 lbs 827 kg
4WD Shipping:	2000 lbs 907 kg
4WD Operating:	2382 lbs 1080 kg
Ballasted:	3792 lbs 1720 kg

Engine Detail
Kubota DH1101
diesel
3-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement:	68.3 ci 1.1 L
Bore/Stroke:	3.00x3.23 inches 76 x 82 mm
Power:	25 hp 18.6 kW
Air cleaner:	paper element
Compression:	21:1
Rated RPM:	2800
Starter:	electric
Starter volts:	12
Oil capacity:	5.2 qts 4.9 L
Coolant capacity:	7 qts 6.6 L

A much more capable tractor.

 

[mgsolakis]

So the Kubota does not have a live PTO? A continuous PTO would not be ideal to my application.

 

[jeff9366]

Kubota L245​
Power Take-off (PTO)
Rear PTO:	independent
Rear RPM:	540/700/1000

'Independent' is the most desirable type of PTO.


Unless you have water-retentive clay soil the R1/ag tires shown in the photo should be fine on lawns with only 2-WD engaged.

The tractor is only 2,380 pounds.

Likely the tire tread is fairly worn.

If you will pull boats up wet boat ramps, wider, softer turf tires might improve traction. Sharp sand and/or cat litter will also help tires grip wet concrete. You will need new rims as well as tires.

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