LBrown59
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newbury
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Are you towing for fun or profit?
Last week I called the local hitch shop in Manassas wanting to get a brake controller installed and the salesperson told me that the non-CDL limit was 10K now for trailers in Virginia.
So if you are towing for profit you might be limited to 10K w/o a CDL.
Hopefully someone will tell me that is wrong. I tried calling the troopers 3 times and never got an answer.
Barry Bowen
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If I understand DOT regulations from when I got my numbers, it is not for a trailer over 10K, it is for a gross combination over 10K. Basically a 3/4 ton diesel with a tandem trailer and maybe 1K on it, and you are doing it for "compensation" (this is a wide open interpretation, it has been construed by DOT for example that hauling horses to a show where you compete for ribbons or trophies, this is "compensation" and you need DOT numbers and follow all the stuff that goes with it, that is time cards, driver medical card, DOT driver qualification files, maintenance files, and all the pre and post trip inspections that go along.) YOU NEED DOT NUMBERS end of story. In Maryland for example to pull over 10K gross comb you need a class A CDL. Fun eh? If you are not doing it for any kind of compensation, you do not need all this junk, but DOT has been trained to figure out in almost any instance some way to say you are operating for compensation.
(If you are in Manassas, maybe you can go down to the scale house at Dumpfries and get your quesiton answered)
(If you are in Manassas, maybe you can go down to the scale house at Dumpfries and get your quesiton answered)
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how many 1/2 ton ram diesels you see running around..
yes a 3/4 ton it is personnel use.non commercial, non profit. mostly haul gravel from the quarry maybe 30 mile round trip for our road and manure for the garden. seems like no matter how much attention I pay I seem to get heavy to often. Also occasionally haul my K B7800 with box blade and loader. Talked with a safety trooper this morning and was told 12,000 is ok for personal use. I have gotten by for probably 10 years. If I could run the loader at the quarry it would not be a problem. If the operator takes his attention away for a second or two it can be an extra ton.My current trailer does not have ramps either or a step down dove tail. I always have to back up to a spot on the property to load and unload, or use a shovel
ramheadjim
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If your combination gross is over 26,001 and the towed unit is greater than 10,000 lbs and you are operating for compensation you need a class A CDL. In Georgia if its for personel use you do not need a CDL. But dont listen to me or anybody else on this subject, check it out on the FMCSA web site and the state you will be traveling in or stop by your friendly scale house and talk to a officer. when you start hauling for compensation you are opening up a big bag of stuff to deal with. I had my trucking authority until 2009 and had to drop it to go to Iraq, It is a lot of records to keep up with and expensive insurance to pay.
That is wrong! :thumbsup:
Can you show where it says that?
That's not true.