Re: New Grand L\'s
RockyRidge, actually it was not your comment that sparked my comment, but rather, Kyle in Texas. I replyed to you but should have hit the reply on Kyles post. Several days ago it was mentioned by him that Kubota tends to be smaller in displacement (see 4310 VS 4410), now they are bigger but compared in the wrong category. You are correct, no question about it. You do need to fill in some blanks yourself. JD has a great website and arguably the best of the 3 major brands we have been discussing, JD's loader information is lacking the last time I used it though and that is a very important area for many. Even the JD XX10 brochure I have has no specifications on the various loaders. One of the differences with Kubota was the wide variations in the loaders available for the Grand L's. The new Grand 30's dropped it to just 3 and for all practical purposes, it should only be 2. The difference is, the 3130, 3430, and 3830 now have available to them a loader that is more powerful then what was on the old 4310. When it comes to the loaders once you get to the Grand L's, its tough to beat the Kubotas, both in specs and in overall build design, they are heavier and no doubt put in more steel. Maybe the extra steel is not needed, but then, I'm not all that gentle to them and use them considerably. I tend to think of the L4630 and L4330 compares to the 4710, 4610 and the 4510 that JD has, the Kubota L3830, L3430 and L3130 as being more in the JD 4310 and 4410. But like you said, its not a big deal and undoubtly you'll have to understand an exact comparison is not going to be made. For the most part, my experience tells me the small HP increases from one frame size to the next comparable frame size is just not that big of a deal either, IE, the JD 4310 vs. the JD 4410 or Kubotas L4330 and the L4630. There are times I've been on a tractor and wished for more power, more often then not 3 or 4 HP just wasn't the increase I had in mind, perhaps 15 or 20 HP. Anyway, your point is well taken and if Kubota gets the hang of website building, perhaps then we can get less spin and more meat. Rat...