Say what you want about Dodge...errrr "Ram" trucks, but they are catching a few eyes.

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While they are making good transmissions now, I'm sure the cost to develop a new one just isn't feasible when they already have a top company like ZF making 8 speeds for their autos.

I too am looking forward to what GM releases for 2013/2014.

I actually think it's a good idea for them to have ZF build their transmissions. I actually like the idea of certain critical components being built by specialists, just like Dodge putting the best diesel in their trucks. Personally, if I could choose a Dodge but with a different company's transmission (like Aisin or ZF) I'll do so every time. Just like if I could buy a Ford with a different company's engine such as International for diesels, I would buy the non Ford power plant. And in the interest of fairness if I could get an aftermarket interior on GM trucks, I would do so.

In summary, I just think that if you're going to do something ground breaking like offering an 8 speed transmission in a light duty truck, then it's best to do so with your strongest possible showing. Having a company that specializes in transmissions build your new entry is a wise move in my opinion. Just like Dodge was wise to go with such a strong diesel engine builder when they turned the diesel pickup industry on its head in 1989. For that matter, just like when GM unveiled an automatic transmission which was finally up to the task of handling a diesel, they had an Allison. It's not always a bad thing to have a specialist make certain parts of your product, and sometimes it will justify a premium cost.
 
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jejeosborne said:
That is my point. Many on the dodge forums are also not able to hold Eco at 55 mph. Put that high gear rear end in the axle and how will it help mpg if not able to use 4 cylinders.
I understand, you make a good point. With the new transmission it probably won't need the MDS as much. An 8 cylinder at 1200 rpms doing 65mph on the highway will probably do better than a 4 cylinder at 2000 rpms working hard. Also, it's not just the new trans that will raise the mpg's, the new truck also has electric power steering, thermal management system, active grill shutters (to lower drag at high speeds), and overall lower weight thanks to a whole new frame which is lighter but 50% more rigid. Only time will tell...

lt CHEG, Very well said!
 
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that electric power steering.. is it electromechanical, or electric over hyd?
 
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Soundguy said:
that electric power steering.. is it electromechanical, or electric over hyd?
Just an electric driven hydraulic pump vs belt driven. I have a similar setup on our new Mazda 3 and it's great!
 
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Dmace said:
Just an electric driven hydraulic pump vs belt driven. I have a similar setup on our new Mazda 3 and it's great!

Actually it is a full electric unit. The electric driven hydraulic pumps are on the Charger, 300 and some Grand Cherokees. The truck is getting an electric motor on the rack providing assist.
 
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i assume none of the diesels are getting it? or are some not using ps boosters for brakes?


soundguy
 
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Soundguy said:
i assume none of the diesels are getting it? or are some not using ps boosters for brakes?

soundguy

Yep. No diesels.
 
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logdog said:
Actually it is a full electric unit. The electric driven hydraulic pumps are on the Charger, 300 and some Grand Cherokees. The truck is getting an electric motor on the rack providing assist.
I stand corrected, before the release it sounded like the RAM would get the electric/hydraulic unit from the others but looking at this picture from PickupTrucks.com it looks like just electric assist on the rack.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/04/2013-ram-1500-first-look-.html#more
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hmm.. wonder how well the electric assist works, vs how durable it is, compaired to a conventional pump based ps system...
 
 
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