davemhughes
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- Ft.Riley KS
- Tractor
- SAME 40hp turbo charged 4cyl diesel w/fel
So its a 40hp turbo SAME. Recently had VR/Alternator issue that with the good help of the forum was able to get sorted and repaired. Well now the thing has suddenly developed an issue where it just sudden dies like the fuel has been shut off. No rhyme or reason. It could do it once the first 5 seconds or 10 times and then run for 5 hours under heavy load with no problem. Sometimes I go out and it runs great and others like tonight it dies 10 times.
I replaced the fuel pump last year, I cleaned the fuel filter at that time. Will water in the system do this?? I posted a short video of what its doing.
In a profound statement of the obvious, something is interrupting your fuel delivery. You have to crank too long to start and then it shuts off and takes a while to re-start. Have you checked the strainer on the tank outlet? if some snotty looking stuff is floating around near the bottom of the tank it could cause intermittent fuel interruption by restricting fuel delivery. Have you locked into the fuel tank to see if you can see anything there? Is your tank made of plastic.? Some times during manufacturing, pieces of plastic swarf ( drill shavings etc) are left in the tank and can cause an restriction. Consider removing the fuel line to the filter and opening the fuel valve fully and see if you get a strong, continuous gush of fuel from the tank out let. if it dribbles or is intermittent, you've found your problem.
Have you checked the line to fuel filter and the filter head itself for partial clogging. What's your fuel filter look like? Just because you replaced it a year ago doesn't mean it stays clean. It's a filter it's supposed to get dirty! Is there a small screen at the inlet to the injector pump or on your lift pump?
Water can get in the tank via condensation so try to keep the tank as full as possible to minimize that and open the water drain regularly to get rid of water at the bottom of the filter housing( if yours has one).
Fuel solenoids are a normally closed spring loaded valve that are held open by turning on the key switch and energizing the solenoid. Is your solenoid staying open when the key is on? A loose connection or an intermittent short to ground can cause a problem and shut the fuel off. Is you battery ground connection to the chasis "bright and tight"?
Systematically do these checks and you should find your problem. Don't buy any parts until you do. Diesels in good mechanical conditions can only be shut off by cutting off the fuel.
I don't believe you have stated the correct operation for the fuel cut off solenoid as fitted to the SAME tractors.
i.e. "Electrical "ON" is fuel flow "OFF". It may be other wise on other tractor makes.
A different angle
Observe the tach-o-meter and other instrument panel indicators. Do they drop out at the same moment the engine begins to falter? If so, Key switch/ circuit is suspect.
I don't understand why a simple fuel shut off would need an elaborate controller with the requisite logic when the only purpose of the fuel solenoid is to cut off the fuel delivery to the injector pump and open it again when starting- a simple binary function- of and on!. In the old days this was done by stop cocking the fuel with a cable actuated shut off. Why not just a simple solenoid cut off valve? I'm not trying to start an argument but I certainly don't see the value of a device as you suggest. Could you explain the benefits of such a system?