How to Keep Ballast Box From Losing Sand?

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Suburban Plowboy

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I decided to keep the last Titan ballast box I received. They sent me one that was beaten up, and I got them to replace it. Then they replaced it with one which was still beaten up, but less so. I decided I would rather have a beaten-up box than wait until a miracle occurred and Fedex delivered one properly.

Titan knocked $30 off to compensate for the cost of paint (which will end up running me more like $50). I am now in the process of painting the box.

Question: what do people do to keep the sand from slowly leaking out of the back door? It closes, but not tightly enough to keep sand in. I was thinking I'd shove a heavy-duty trash bag down in there.
 
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Or landscape fabric.
 
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I can't empty hardened concrete from the box when I want to put it in my pickup or in a moving van.
 
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so you empty sand go to different location, and... source new sand? bring it with you? and a moving van is involved?


a beaten up box? spent $50 to paint? the painting is a hole process? holy cow man. i think you bought the cheapest possible thing you could and aren't happy that its a cheap product/ sounds like your looking for problems that dont need to found. what are your expectations?


imho the door thing on a ballast box is dumb. if you really need to fill and empty a ballast box use a sealed container and fill with water. and just for a chuckle please tell me you ordered it on amazon...
 
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I see you wrote that at 2:28 a.m. Maybe that explains the interesting content.

Lots of people use moving vans now. It's much better than carrying your possessions across country by hand. Also, sand is not valuable. It's well worth it to dump a few dollars' worth of sand in order to reduce the weight of an item by 800 pounds.

I did order it on Amazon. That's what smart people do, and in case anyone here doesn't know why, I will explain.

When you order from a vendor's website or a small retailer's site, you may have problems when you try to return things. They have no one watching over them to make them behave. When you order from Amazon (or Ebay, using Paypal instead of a credit card), you have a third party to help you out.

I ordered some mulching blades from some real sweethearts on Amazon. They wanted to charge me a big restocking fee, and when I returned the product, they didn't acknowledge it. I complained to Amazon. BANG. Full refund, no questions asked, thanks for your business. The seller got stuck with the cost of everything but return shipping, and there was nothing they could do about it.

Paypal is great for buyers. That's one reason why some sellers reject it. Jerks and crooks hate being forced to refund money. I've stuck it to bad sellers more than once using Paypal's dispute resolution service. If I had bought from Joe Bob's Wix-based Obscure Website, using a credit card, I would have been screwed. I always go with Amazon or Paypal when I have a choice, and I leave bad feedback and reviews when appropriate.

Never use Ebay's dispute process. It's totally worthless. Always reject it and use Paypal's process first.

I'm surprised there are people who don't know these things. Maybe this post will be a blessing to them.

I'll tell you about an experience I had buying from a well-known website. I bought a lathe from an outfit called Plaza Machinery. The owner, who is now deceased, claimed it was a certain model, and he said it had seen very little use. He said it had a 3-phase motor. When it arrived, I found it was a different model. It had been used for decades, to teach prisoners how to machine. It was beaten up. It had a 1-phase motor.

Even though I'm an attorney, and I told the owner so, he refused to work with me. He offered to take it back if I paid for half of the shipping. He sent me a creaky old motor; I'll give him credit for that. In the end, I had to choose between suing him and moving on with my life, so I moved on.

He required people to pay by check and money order. I found out why!

Wish I had bought it on Amazon. They would have made him eat it. A sleazy dealer like him would never sell through these sites. Cockroaches hate sunlight.

When I see something interesting on a small website, I go to Amazon and Ebay to see if the seller sells through them as well. NEVER NEVER buy through a small website if you can use Amazon or Ebay.

Hope this is helpful to other people who are considering big Internet purchases.
 
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I put door screen (fiberglass type) material in my ballast box. It lets the moisture drain out (reduce rusting) but keeps the sand in. The landscape fabric should work as well, I just happened to have extra screen lying around and it worked.
 
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I used cardboard, which worked until the first big rain. I had some notion that I may need to empty it. That never came to pass, so I dumped out the sand, chopped up some cast iron machinery and dumped that and several brake rotors in the bottom, and filled the rest with concrete. Never regretted it.
I have no clue as to why someone would need to transport the thing; if I need to move mine, I just drive the tractor to the desired location.
 
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What if you move from Florida to Tennessee?
 
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What if you move from Florida to Tennessee?

Is this a frequent thing? Do you not have other heavy implements? I literally have dozens of things over 1000lbs that would need transported if I move. I would use my loader and load them. Now if I knew I was for sure moving on a certain date in the near future I might try to consider that when getting new things but I am not going make working with my implements more difficult on the chance that I might want them to be lighter if I decide to move someday.
 
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I would use my loader and load them.

Or you could just dump some worthless sand and put the box in your pickup.
 
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I decided to keep the last Titan ballast box I received. They sent me one that was beaten up, and I got them to replace it. Then they replaced it with one which was still beaten up, but less so. I decided I would rather have a beaten-up box than wait until a miracle occurred and Fedex delivered one properly.

Titan knocked $30 off to compensate for the cost of paint (which will end up running me more like $50). I am now in the process of painting the box.

Question: what do people do to keep the sand from slowly leaking out of the back door? It closes, but not tightly enough to keep sand in. I was thinking I'd shove a heavy-duty trash bag down in there.

Do you need the door to open? I am not sure why you would. Weld it shut sealing the gap if you don’t want sand trickling out.
 
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I am like others here, why would you need to move the ballast box and not the tractor? If moving, I would think that you would want to move all of your equipment and in that case, load it on a trailer along with your tractor. If moving just the ballast box and dump all the weight, what are you using it for when you get to the new site.


I guess some folks do things much different than what I would do and their reasons is theirs alone.
 
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Or you could just dump some worthless sand and put the box in your pickup.

Sure you could but obviously you are having problems with the sand leaking. My point was unless you are planning on moving in the near future why not remedy the leaking sand with concrete? I guess everyone’s situation is different but I never consider how I will move things when setting up my tractors and implements. No joke it would likely take over a dozen semis to move all my stuff.
 
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I'm not having problems with the sand leaking. I haven't filled the box yet. I'm getting advice before I fill it up. Someone said a trash bag will do it, so I'm going to use one.
 
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You take it with you empty or full.... Just like you take tractor or anvil or any other object....

Dale
 
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Suburban Plowboy; heard of time zones? my location is listed. local time was 11:28

so your a lawyer, that explains allot. by education i'm an industrial engineer. most call it a 'practical engineer' i find solutions, not problems.


What if you move from Florida to Tennessee? too funny
 
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Sand is messy - use rocks or steel weights. You can find a lot of weight lifting sets on CL for cheap or free.
 
 

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