New Holland loader

[radman1]

I have a 2000 Case-ih DX29 (deluxe version with HST) with 2 rear remotes. My case ih dealer has 4 different sizes of blue NH loaders with the old numbering system. I can't quite remember the numbers but they were 12?, 14?, 16? etc. What size would fit my tractor? These loaders came from CNH testing facility and are discounted to dealers to sell or sold for scrap. They don't have the SS type attachment for the buckets but instead pin on. The loaders look like they were never used but are weathered. Have hoses but no control valve. (I could run them off the rear hydraulic outlets.) They have loader brackets with them but dealer doesn't know what tractor they would fit. I think I can get one these very cheap, but taking some risk on if they would fit on the DX29 and I assume have no warranty. (For the NH crowd, I may have to repaint it!)

 

[jinman]

There is one big problem. If your tractor is indeed a 2000, it was never designed to have the curved arm 14LA or LX114 loader. There were changes to the front axle and mounting to allow the 14LA to be installed on tractors after 2004 (I believe this is the correct date.). That discussion has been posted several times in this forum since the introduction of the curved-arm loaders for the Class II tractors.

I did not realize there was a Case DX29 in 2000. Are you sure your tractor is that old? I thought the Case version didn't come out until 2003 or 2004. Hmm. . . I'm a little confused and more than a little suspicious of your tractor's year model.

Also, I would not even consider trying to use the rear remotes to run a loader. If you can't afford the Case joystick valve, then you should be able to mount a 3rd-party valve from Surplus Center or other hydraulic supplier. I think your tractor already has the priority valve installed and all it would take is to plumb in the 2-spool joystick valve and piping.

 

[MikePA]

If it's really a 2000, you would need the 7308 loader.

 

[dgl24087]

According to TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors, the DX29 started manufacture in 2001. TractorData is generally reliable, but does contain errors.

 

[radman1]

Sorry guys, I am guessing a little on the age. The tractor is on the farm (90 miles away) and my memory maybe slipping. Might be a 2001 or 2002. I will get a firm date tomorrow and call the dealer who has it on record. I am trying to keep the cost of the loader low. I will probably be selling this tractor in the next 6 months. Many guys want a loader and if I can get a very inexpensive loader for it, I may consider this as an option. Any specs for the 14LA loader lift capacity? The 14LA will fit the TC29D. Any other sizes it will fit?
I am reluctant to go with the typical joystick due to cost through parts dept and I may never recover the expense. Maybe the overall concept of using the NH loader is more work than worth?

 

[jinman]

In your case, I think I'd go to the dealer with a camera and take detailed pictures of a tractor with a LX114 loader. Look closely at the mounting brackets and take pictures and measurements. With those in hand, make the comparison to your tractor.

If you are planning on selling the tractor, I'd sure plan on putting a normal loader control valve on it. If I saw a tractor that had been rigged to work with remotes, I think I'd be less likely to buy that tractor.

The 14LA/LX114 has a lift capacity around 1400 lb. The 7308 it replaced has a lift capacity of about 1100 lb.

MikePA: The 7308 is New Hollands number for the Class II loader. Was that Case's number on the DX models? I can't remember a Case without a curved arm loader. That's one of the reasons I don't think Case was selling the DX models in 2000. I can't recall ever seeing a DX with a 7308-style loader.

 

[MikePA]

That's one of the reasons I don't think Case was selling the DX models in 2000. I can't recall ever seeing a DX with a 7308-style loader.

I agree. I was going by the OPs statement his tractor was a 2000 model.

I bought my TC25D in Oct, 2001 and it took the 7308 and the curved loaders came out shortly afterwards, in 2002, if I recall correctly. That's when the Case tractors came out which would make the Case 29DX at least a 2002 model.

I also agree with your comment re: the joystick. If I saw a tractor with a jerry rigged loader installation, I'd keep shopping.

 

[whitetiger]

How in the world is a loader plugged in the rear remotes " jury rigged"?
The joy stick is an option the same as rear remotes. You can add remotes to the rear or midmount or both if you want, but they do the same thing. Some people do not want to install both and plug the loader into the rear or plug their dump wagon and log splitter into the midmount. The loader will not care where it is plugged into.

 

[jinman]

How in the world is a loader plugged in the rear remotes " jury rigged"?
The joy stick is an option the same as rear remotes.

If what you say is true, why don't manufacturers just skip that "unneeded joystick" and use rear remotes? Perhaps a better term than "jerry-rigged" is to call it a kludge, made of components originally intended for some other use.

If you buy a new tractor with a loader, it comes with a joystick. If you buy a new tractor with remotes, it does not come with a loader. Yes, they are both options, but they are unrelated except that they both use hydraulic power. I cannot imagine using a loader by manipulating two remote levers. Have yoiu ever done that? I have operated two control loaders, but they were conveniently located where I could operate both levers with one hand. I've never seen remotes like that.

 

[MikePA]

How in the world is a loader plugged in the rear remotes " jury rigged"?

It's "jury rigged" because it's not the standard way NH installs loaders on tractors.