At least a rebuilt transmission does not add unwanted parts. I understand that there is growing pains and that we all make mistakes. Its how we fix those mistakes and solve those problems that dictates who we are. How come the consumer has to pay for Kiotis mistakes. I don't care what it cost them they should fix what they screwed up. If this means going belly up, to bad they should have figured these things out sooner. In my opinion any change in performance, exaggerated or not is not acceptable. A rebuilt transmission may be rebuilt but it does the same thing as new one, sometimes better. In this case there is nothing better about this kit and if anything it takes away from the performance and value from the tractor which is simply unacceptable in my eyes. I don't care about there problems all I know is that I don't want some mickey mouse repair kit to be part of mine.
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IslandTractor
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Asking them to do a recall that could (no evidence of this) put them out of business is surely wishing to cut off your nose to spite your face. What good is it to have an orphan tractor? I do agree that they should have offered some choice for the customer with perhaps a deeply discounted price for replacement arms and spliting the cost of having the dealer install them for example as an alternative for those like yourself who find the kit unacceptable for whatever reason.
The "repair" kit is supposed to increase the strength of the loader so there is some positive element to what we all agree is a negative cosmetic result. If you really don't want the repair kit then don't use it and custom weld a reinforcement around the cutout. There are features in every piece of equipment we buy that are not ideal, you either learn to live with that or get rid of it and move on.
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I just had mine installed today by the fine people at Tractor Hill. I took the loader arms down to them in my pickup, and they turned me around in about an hour. Tractor has about 245 hours on it and when they removed the plates there were no cracks yet. As to the looks, it is about 1/2 inch wider that the tube under it so unless you knew it before, you wouldn't even notice it. As an engineer, I'm ok with the fix. It adds a margin of strength, will make the loader more ridged, looks ok, and probably only takes 30-40 pounds off of the total lift ability.
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I'm with you P.L. The kit is a bandaid and reduces the value of all CK's with the KL130s, both new design and old. ....And my loader did fail.
Gitty up I encourage you and anyone else who is unhappy with Kioti's band aid to complain. Go on Kioti's web site and write a complaint. I have written several complaints and have gotten phone calls in response. Although right now they won't do any thing for me, if more people let them know they are not satisfied with their fix, maybe Kioti will take responsibility for their mistake and solve the problem with new loader arms or a credit for a new loader. Also tell your dealer you are not happy with the fix, if the dealer knows you are not satisfied than they can put pressure on Kioti too. The more people that voice their opinions the more chance of getting a response.
Dmace
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How exactly did your loader fail? We have not heard of any failures yet. My loader had 4 small 1" cracks at the four bolt holes. The reinforcement plate was added about 100 hrs ago and after moving many many loads that are heavier than any tractor in it's class could ever think of lifting, the cracks have not moved at all. Obviously the plate is working and I don't see any problem with it at all.
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That is the first claim of failure I have heard. If you are going to make a statement like that you'd better back it up. We don't need exaggerated or unsubstantiated claims made just to stir the pot. You previously stated your loader "twisted". We don't know what that means as many loaders are not perfectly level and a slight "twist" doesn't affect function. Furthermore there is no evidence I know of that twist is associated with the cracks. Kubota B3030 loaders are reported as being unlevel or twisted too but there are no cracking issues with that loader. We know you are pissed off you are with Kioti, but exaggeration doesn't help. If you want to maintain your credibility back up your statement with photos and a clear description of how your "failed" loader functions.
It seems to me that most Kioti owners are happy with the fact that they own a tractor with higher performance ratings than the rest of the major compact tractor manufactures. Why don't you also encourage Kioti to have better costumer support and service to and once again raise the bar for other manufactures. I don' care how my trator out performs other tractors in it's class, if it's a ticking time bomb without the manufacture to back it up (2+ years for a poor solution at best), I'll go with less lifting and more reliability.
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'If' Kioti would have taken the position of replacing the cracked loaders from the gitgo and explained it was going to take 2 1/2years for Taesung to build and absorb the expense it would be much smoother sailing now.
But that did not happen and what it is, it is.
Don
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For reasons I cannot go into, I cannot provide more details. Let's just say that, in my case, Kioti agrees with me. It is my opinion that my loader failed, and that the kit cheapens the tractor. I'm not exaggerating anything. I'm not pissed off that I own a Kioti either (at least not yet). In fact, many of my recent posts have praised my tractor. I'm coming from the point of view that the kit reduces the value of my tractor and all other owners of CK's, whether they have the original loader, with or without the kit, or a new KL130B and I'd like to see that corrected.
Other than this I don't have to justify nothing to you. I don't really care if you agree or not. How can you say that none have failed? You don't know squat about my loader, nor hundreds of others out there.
What I'm lobbying for is that all users with cracked loaders get new loader arms, and I will continue to do this.