5103 2wd clutch

[Kfbeal]

I purchased a used 2005 JD 2wd 5103 with 512 loader, shredder, etc. The tractor had just over 400 hours when I purchased it, and now has 440 or 460 hours.

I've noticed that the clutch really doesn't dis-engage until the foot pedal is all the way out towards the seat. Upon slightly pushing the clutch in, it engages. There is very little play in the clutch and very cumbersome.

Upon doing some loader work this weekend, I've had to pull up on the clutch to get it to move. It doesn't seem to me the clutch is slipping, but possibly out of adjustment? When you pull it out, the tractor moves as it should without slippage.

Is this an easy fix? I've tried to remove the pin on the clutch release shaft to adjust the threads to possible extend that some, but wasn't able to at the time due to lack of tools. I thought that maybe it needed to be extended out but not sure. Would that help?

I seriously doubt the spring is weak. I just seems that the clutch should be allowed to be pushed in more before engaging. Or am I wrong in thinking?

Any ideas or thoughts, all are welcome.

 

[jd110]

If you have to pull out on the clutch pedal to make it work, then it sounds like something is binding. Try spraying some penetrating oil on all the pivot points of the pedal, adjustable link, and the throw-out bearing shaft where it enters the clutch housing. push the clutch pedal in and out while spraying to work the oil into the joints. After all is freed up, you may need to adjust the link as well. The first inch of pedal travel should be very easy until the throw-out bearing contacts the clutch fingers.

 

[Kfbeal]

Thanks jd110. It seems as if the clutch pedal comes all the way out, and then there's a tad bit that you have to pull out to get it to go. Under a bind, you always have to pull it out. It's almost like under no load it will come out without a problem, which worries me to thinking the clutch is slipping.

Even with going in road gear, it seems the more throttle you give the more willing it is to take off but if you pull the clutch back it moves as normal.

I hate to think the clutch may be bad, so I'm hoping it's something else. The first inch or two is where the clutch engages/disengages so I think the pedal needs adjustment, and possibly cleaning like you said. I'll do what you mention as soon as I can get to it. We had 4+" of rain yesterday and my tractors across a creek where we were working this weekend.

 

[JC-jetro]

Thanks jd110. It seems as if the clutch pedal comes all the way out, and then there's a tad bit that you have to pull out to get it toto go. Under a bind, you always have to pull it out. It's almost like under no load it will come out without a problem, which worries me to thinking the clutch is slipping.

Even with going in road gear, it seems the more throttle you give the more willing it is to take off but if you pull the clutch back it moves as normal.

I hate to think the clutch may be bad, so I'm hoping it's something else. The first inch or two is where the clutch engages/disengages so I think the pedal needs adjustment, and possibly cleaning like you said. I'll do what you ntion as soon as I can get to it. We had 4+" of rain yesterday and my tractors across a creek where we were working this weekend.

There is not enough to say that clutch is bad. If the clutch not slipping, you have power and no extra grinding type of the noise coming from the clutch housing is all good news. I suspect you clutch need adjustment. The release fork/bearing combination need to be a wee bit further to clutch pressure plate fingers to cleanly separate release bearing from the pressure plate fingers. it's riding the clutch pedal always due to misadjustment.

JC,

 

[Kfbeal]

There is not enough to say that clutch is bad. If the clutch not slipping, you have power and no extra grinding type of the noise coming from the clutch housing is all good news. I suspect you clutch need adjustment. The release fork/bearing combination need to be a wee bit further to clutch pressure plate fingers to cleanly separate release bearing from the pressure plate fingers. it's riding the clutch pedal always due to misadjustment.

JC,

Is that adjustment the same as mentioned above? Or something we have to tear into to get at? Thanks for all your help. I was hoping I wasn't going to spend a ton of $ getting this repaired.

 

[JC-jetro]

Is that adjustment the same as mentioned above? Or something we have to tear into to get at? Thanks for all your help. I was hoping I wasn't going to spend a ton of $ getting this repaired.

This is an external adjustment and no disassembly is required. you do not have a bad clutch from your explanation. You have a fork looking device along with a bearing that touches the pressure plate fingers. pressure plate, clutch disk and flywheel all are attached to on another and turn as one unit. If the release bearing is too close to pressure plat or touching then you are riding it and it may be so much as to not allow complete engagement of clutch. conversely if the release bearing is too far from pressure plate than full clutch pedal pressing may not disengage where causes gear grinding. what makes it more difficult to adjust is that you have independent PTO (no hydraulic), same as live with dual clutch, one for PTO and one transmission. You'll need to consult factory or repair manual for your tractor to get the adjustment specs. I'll bit you'll find a few guys in the green forum that have done that before.

JC,