Trailer for a MF 165?

[Farmwithjunk]

I'm looking for a Truck and trailer combo to transport my little old BX23 with.
I need at least a 3/4 or 1 ton pick up for that and the BX23 only weighs 2467 pounds.
I might be wrong but I bet Your MF is bigger and heavier than my BX23.
*It's not the Hp that counts===it's the stopping power and stability that matters.

Not sure where you get your info at, but you need to question just about everything you THINK you know. Unless you plan on hauling that little toy of a tractor on a trailer that weighs more than 7500lbs empty, your estimates of how much truck you have to have are WAAAAAAY off. The OP could put your tractor IN THE BED of his Toyota and haul it! That truck wouldn't have a tow rating over 10,000lbs if it wasn't capable of stopping a trailer (equipped with brakes) weighing that much.

Needing a one ton truck to trailer a 2467 lb tractor! I'm assuming you're joking, right? Otherwise, this might be the most preposterous thing you've posted on TBN to date.

 

[George2615]

I think LB is getting confused from his other posts for a truck and trailer. He needs a 3/4 to 1T truck because he wants to haul between 3-4K in the pickup bed. He only needs a 7K trailer for his BX23 which any 1/2T would pull.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I think LB is getting confused from his other posts for a truck and trailer. He needs a 3/4 to 1T truck because he wants to haul between 3-4K in the pickup bed. He only needs a 7K trailer for his BX23 which any 1/2T would pull.

I'll go along with the confused part.......

A 1/2T could still EASILY pull a 10,000 or 12,000 GVWR trailer that's not loaded to that point. My 14,000lb GVWR bumper pull weighs around 2600lbs empty. A 2500lb tractor on that trailer would still be far below the max tow weight rating of most 1/2T's.

In my business, we routinely pull loaded trailers in excess of 11,000 gross behind a pair of Dodge 3/4 tons all the while staying "legal". Ordinarily, those loads will be on a 14,000GVWR gooseneck. Ordinarily when I use the 14,000 GVWR bumper pull, it'll be loaded to a gross weight of approx. 8500lbs. I'm subject to DOT/Commercial Vehicle Enforcment Division (of Kentucky State Police) inspection. We can count on being scaled at a roadside inspection AT LEAST once or twice a year. So far, never any issues with weight or load ratings.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

I'll go along with the confused part.......

A 1/2T could still EASILY pull a 10,000 or 12,000 GVWR trailer that's not loaded to that point. My 14,000lb GVWR bumper pull weighs around 2600lbs empty. A 2500lb tractor on that trailer would still be far below the max tow weight rating of most 1/2T's.

In my business, we routinely pull loaded trailers in excess of 11,000 gross behind a pair of Dodge 3/4 tons all the while staying "legal". Ordinarily, those loads will be on a 14,000GVWR gooseneck. Ordinarily when I use the 14,000 GVWR bumper pull, it'll be loaded to a gross weight of approx. 8500lbs. I'm subject to DOT/Commercial Vehicle Enforcment Division (of Kentucky State Police) inspection. We can count on being scaled at a roadside inspection AT LEAST once or twice a year. So far, never any issues with weight or load ratings.

And in KY i believe the Vehicle Enforcement is the worse ones.

 

[LBrown59]

your estimates of how much truck you have to have are WAAAAAAY off.
1*The OP could put your tractor IN THE BED of his Toyota and haul it!
2*That truck wouldn't have a tow rating over 10,000lbs if it wasn't capable of stopping a trailer (equipped with brakes) weighing that much.
~~Needing a one ton truck to trailer a 2467 lb tractor!
3*I'm assuming you're joking, right?

1*But could he haul 3 or 4 thousand pounds of dirt/gravel in his Toyota with or without the trailer hooked up to the truck?
2*Good point.
3*I might be if I didn't need to haul 3 or 4 thousand pounds in the bed of the truck.
This is what I'm looking at for my situation.

I think LB is getting
4* He needs a 3/4 to 1T truck because he wants to haul between 3-4K in the pickup bed.
5*He only needs a 7K trailer for his BX23 which any 1/2T would pull.

4* and 5* Rite but I figure if I concentrate on the hauling side of the truck equation the towing part will take care of it's self.

6*A 1/2T could still EASILY pull a 10,000 or 12,000 GVWR trailer that's not loaded to that point. My 14,000lb GVWR bumper pull weighs around 2600lbs empty.
7* A 2500lb tractor on that trailer would still be far below the max tow weight rating of most 1/2T's.

6-7*But a 3 or 4 thousand pound load in that 1/2 ton would overload it would it not?
Yes I did confuse the hauling factor for my needs when I made my previous replies.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

My father-in-law just picked my up a Massey 165 at auction recently and I need to go pick it up and have implements to carry back as well. I am trying to get an idea of what is the ideal size trailer for this tractor with at least one implement attached.

I will we using a 2007 Tundra 5.7 4 x 4 V-8 with 10,600 towing capacity. Thanks!!

Welcome to TBN!

(IMHO)

I believe a 18ft. trailer would be good for you, that would allow you some room when you have a bush hog or other attachment on. You have the truck that would pull it just fine.

Another thing would be, to have brakes on both axles. If brakes are on one axle and you use them a lot, they will heat up more.

And a weight distribution hitch helps very well, i use one every time i pull a trailer.
If you would like to see pictures of the kind i use, then just ask.

 

[FenderBender711]

Yeah, I am not looking at payload, just towing capability and again, when I bought the truck I specifically got this one as at the time because of it's towing ability in a 1/2 ton truck...large brakes (13.9" & 13.6" rotors), strong engine (400lbs of torque), Nice gear ratio (4.3) and a heavy truck with what appears to be a nice towing package. I have read 10,300 and 10,600 on various papers on what it would tow...either way, plan to stay under the 10K.

I can work the math, I just have no experience trailering a load like this....already have the Owner's Manual out on the truck to make sure I follow safe practices, etc. I figured most of you guys could help me on the length of trailer since you have probably moved yours around a little.

I think the suggestion of 18' is right. That gives me a little room to play with regarding moving the trailer around. I found a 21' trailer local for a great price, but I think it may be a bit much....I also have found a 16' trailer, but wrong GVWR and I could be cutting it too close.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

Yeah, I am not looking at payload, just towing capability and again, when I bought the truck I specifically got this one as at the time because of it's towing ability in a 1/2 ton truck...large brakes (13.9" & 13.6" rotors), strong engine (400lbs of torque), Nice gear ratio (4.3) and a heavy truck with what appears to be a nice towing package. I have read 10,300 and 10,600 on various papers on what it would tow...either way, plan to stay under the 10K.

I can work the math, I just have no experience trailering a load like this....already have the Owner's Manual out on the truck to make sure I follow safe practices, etc. I figured most of you guys could help me on the length of trailer since you have probably moved yours around a little.

I think the suggestion of 18' is right. That gives me a little room to play with regarding moving the trailer around. I found a 21' trailer local for a great price, but I think it may be a bit much....I also have found a 16' trailer, but wrong GVWR and I could be cutting it too close.

If you have never towed before, then a 18ft. would be just fine.
The truck you have is just fine, i have a lot of friends that have a tundra and they pull campers, tractors etc... ( Do you have a brake controller in your truck ? )

Since you have never towed a trailer before, i believe a weight distribution hitch with sway control will be best.

 

[George2615]

If you found a 21' at a great price I'd go for it. It may take a while to get used to it but you'll be happy to have that extra length when you do need it for some other hauling job.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

1*But could he haul 3 or 4 thousand pounds of dirt/gravel in his Toyota with or without the trailer hooked up to the truck?
2*Good point.
3*I might be if I didn't need to haul 3 or 4 thousand pounds in the bed of the truck.
This is what I'm looking at for my situation.

4* and 5* Rite but I figure if I concentrate on the hauling side of the truck equation the towing part will take care of it's self.

6-7*But a 3 or 4 thousand pound load in that 1/2 ton would overload it would it not?
Yes I did confuse the hauling factor for my needs when I made my previous replies.

OP has no stated plans on hauling 3 or 4 thousand pounds of gravel while moving his tractor so your assumption is unwarranted as far as this thread is concerned.

Apparently you ARE confused as to which thread you're posting to. Or simply confused......