Backhoe backhoe question

[orangekubotadriver]

I own an M68 with a Quickie loader, a 3130 with no loader, and an old but smoothly working Dresser 175 crawler loader w/ 4-way bucket. So with all of that digging power, what else do I need?....I need a backhoe. With that being said, I would prefer to run the backhoe on the M68 but I don't know if one would fit. I prefer a Kubota but if I have to buy a loader for the 3130 in order to fit one on that machine, I would look at another solid brand for the M68.

Suggestion????

 

[dodge man]

I know Woods makes backhoes for alot of different machine. I also priced a backhoe for my BX2350 from another company called Koyeker(sp?). I know they made them for larger machines also. I believe both companys make them with sub-frames, which I think is important for the druability of your tractor.

BTW. The are pretty pricey. A backhoe for my little BX was almost $6000. I'm assuming they cost even more for larger machines.

 

[dfkrug]

I own an M68 with a Quickie loader, a 3130 with no loader, and an old but smoothly working Dresser 175 crawler loader w/ 4-way bucket. So with all of that digging power, what else do I need?....I need a backhoe. With that being said, I would prefer to run the backhoe on the M68 but I don't know if one would fit. I prefer a Kubota but if I have to buy a loader for the 3130 in order to fit one on that machine, I would look at another solid brand for the M68.

Suggestion????

Does the M68 or Dresser have a cat 2 3-pt hitch? If so, a 3-pt hoe
attachment may work for you. Cat 2 are stronger than cat 1s and they
are on bigger machines.

Lots of subframes are made for the 3130, but both Woods and Kubota
may require the existence of a Woods or Kub FEL. You can use a hoe on
the 3130 if you use a subframe and front weights.

Have you considered a custom subframe?

 

[kthompson]

I have a M 6800 and thought of a backhoe two years back. When I got the price found I could buy a used excavator for that price range. Well ended up with spending about twice what it was going to cost but a much better digging option with the 360 rotation and separate machine. Matter of fact am now using the M6800 to pull a dump trailer that the excavator is loading. You might want to keep an eye out on ebay for a used backhoe if you decide to go that way.

 

[orangekubotadriver]

Thanks for the opinions/advice. I do have the max front weights on the 3130 and it is the 4wd model, so should I assume a kubota backhoe with a subframe would be good enough and the loader would not be necessary? I would really prefer to stay away from the used market because I don't have any expertise in evaluating a used machine (learned an expensive lesson with the Dresser).

I don't think I would be using the backhoe for more than light digging as long as the big Dresser 175 is running - it's an good machine now and will work like crazy - took down an old 2-storey farm house in a couple of hrs.

 

[dfkrug]

I do have the max front weights on the 3130 and it is the 4wd model, so should I assume a kubota backhoe with a subframe would be good enough and the loader would not be necessary?

You could operate a hoe in the L3130 w/o a FEL, but more weight is a good
thing. The subframe would not be able to tie into the FEL subframe, of
course. I would limit your choice of hoes to those in the 7.5' class or
smaller. Your tractor naked weighs in the neighborhood of 3300#. If you
can get 500# or more of front weight, you are pushing 4K#. The hoe
will be able to drag the tractor around, but it would work. You could get
several hundred more #s by filling the rear tires, too.

Used hoe attachments are risky, as they often sit outside for years. But
currently, there are a lot of bargains out there.

 

[MarkV]

I just can not imagine using either of my backhoes without a loader. The loader bucket is one of the three points that stabilize the tractor while digging. Without all three points in contact with the ground the backhoe will just drag the tractor every which way in my opinion.

MarkV

 

[TORQUIN]

I second MarkV. I notice a difference in the staying power of my 3830, with a 9' backhoe, when I don't have my FEL dug into the ground.

Chris

 

[dfkrug]

I just can not imagine using either of my backhoes without a loader.

Anchoring the tractor with the FEL bkt is better, yes, but not always
necessary. I do that when I have my bkt mounted, but I usually have
my fork frame mounted and I don't dig that into the ground. The tractor
is somewhat easier to pull around with the hoe, but still quite productive.

Note that many hoe attachments do not have pointy outrigger feet that
dig into the ground. This shortcoming leads to easy dragging of the
tractor by the hoe. My hoe has flip over outrigger feet with a pointy
side and a rubber soled side for pavement.

 

[MarkV]

dfkrug I do understand what you are saying and I also use the backhoe with forks on. Actually I rarely dig the loader bucket into the ground when using the backhoe. In my opinion even the forks flat on the ground is different than nothing up front as a stabilizing point. I think I'll give it a try with the loader bucket in the air just to see how it works.

MarkV