New cutter needs PTO adaptation

[wwalkersd]

I sold the M5 Dixie cutter until about 18 years ago, and I didn't remember that it required a pin through the tractor shaft.
Does your tractor pto shaft have a groove around the circumference? Go to Woodsequipment.com and look up manuals for your model. You will see that although the yoke appears to have a hole in the side, it also has a spring loaded push pin that locks into the groove on the pto shaft. So you don't need to drill the pto yoke.

Funny you should mention that. The shaft has obviously been bodged up at some point. It looks like it has a welded-solid small slip clutch at the tractor end. And the yoke on the tractor end only has a single hole in it, i.e., the hole doesn't go through both sides. No push pin, though. Maybe the single hole was for the push pin?

Oh, and I've solved my tech difficulties and can now show you a picture of the slip clutch that was under the shield:

Do you know any way to determine whether the clutch works, short of running the mower into a rock? Unfortunately I don't have a photo of the tractor end of the shaft.

P.S. Yes, the shaft with the slip clutch is partially removed from the gearbox shaft. We removed the bolt and we're working on removing the shaft.

 

[medicshawn]

I'm not sure if this helps or not. I bought a PTO shaft extension to get back the length that my quick hitch uses up. When removing it yesterday I noticed it had a hole drilled through the middle. The extension was only 20 dollars through Agri Supply. Similar to this. I'll keep looking to find the correct part.

118-2248 PTO EXT. 1-3/8 - Agri Supply

 

[wwalkersd]

OK, I just looked at the parts drawings in the manual, and the quick detach yoke definitely has the push-button offset from the centerline of the yoke. My yoke has a hole through the center, but only one side. Weird.

 

[wwalkersd]

I'm not sure if this helps or not. I bought a PTO shaft extension to get back the length that my quick hitch uses up. When removing it yesterday I noticed it had a hole drilled through the middle. The extension was only 20 dollars through Agri Supply. Similar to this. I'll keep looking to find the correct part.

118-2248 PTO EXT. 1-3/8 - Agri Supply

We need the Over-Running Clutch, which already adds plenty of length. So if I did this the shaft would end up really, really short, which would probably give bad u-joint angles. An ORC with a hole would be a better match.

 

[medicshawn]

Here's one where you can see the hole. I'm not sure where the hole is on yours or how big.

PTO ADAPTER 1-3/8 FEAMLE X 1-3/8 MALE - Agri Supply

PTO ADAPTER 1-3/8" FEMALE X 1-3/8" MALE

 

[medicshawn]

how about this
OVER RIDING CLUTCH - Agri Supply

 

[wwalkersd]

how about this
OVER RIDING CLUTCH - Agri Supply

Well, I need the 1-3/8x1-1/8 version, but it's the same price. $32.95 beats the $70 one I listed as my option 2. Thanks for the pointer!

However, as described above, it looks like a free drilled hole will be a better (or at least cheaper) option.

 

[sandman2234]

I would think that there is a procedure for exercising the slip clutch. I have never used one, so the right way is beyond me, but I do know somebody can probably chime in with the correct way. It is pretty much an established procedure to run them thru a check at least once a year, when you first start the mowing season.
If nobody else chimes in, then loosen the bolts holding the springs until it slips, then tighten them up a little at a time until you reach the NO SLIP ZONE.
(Hopefully somebody will chime in on that one, or do a search, you should find the right way posted)
David from Jax

 

[captflx]

To check the function of your slipclutch----loosen all springs on clutch. Using an ink marker or a piece of chalk, mark all parts of the clutch. Engage tractor pto, shut down and check marks. If any parts line up, those are frozen. Disassemble clutch, remove rust and/or replace friction disc. If nothing lines up, all parts are free. If the friction pads appear to be o.k.--- both are same thickness and about 1/8" to 3/16".
Refer to operator manual to reset the springs. Normally these springs are set according to their length from the clutch face to the flat underneath the nut. These really need to be close to meaurement in manual as a 1 1/2 revolution past the setting can lock down some clutches.