Another injector failure

[Gittyup]

I think that we should all assume that dealers and manufacturers are earnest companies that want to be fair and forthright rather than quickly expecting just the opposite. We owe them that respect because most of them deserve it. Sometimes a little patience is also called for.

Kioti the same. If the injector pump failure rates were significant (I suspect they are not), then Kioti might handle this differently. I'm just appreciative that they will fix the defective ones on a case by case basis. They may not always communicate very well (understatement). But, they sure seem to try to make things right for someone when things do go wrong.

It would be nice if they published a technical bulletin on these kinds of things so that we know what is breaking and what was done to remedy the situation going forward. The dealers would probably like this too, as it is often they who are left to explain to their customers. I suspect dealers don't like saying "I don't know" anymore than we like to hear it.

I have no problems with the local dealer, really. I assume, they set their service policies in a manner that best fits their particular situation. When they said they would not do it in the field, I accepted that, told them I'd think about it, and thanked them for their time.

I could've hauled it to the dealer and saved maybe as much as $150 in transport fees. But, after thinking about how much work it would be to pull it onto the trailer without a winch, chain it down twice, and then still having to drive two 1.5 hour round trips to/from the dealer, I thought it just wasn't worth it. And then they would have it for a week or two, sitting out in the weather. I'd rather it sit at my place, under shelter until it's fixed. As it is, I can go to work today and when I come home my tractor will be fixed. Cost me just the time of a couple of phone calls (and of course the traveling/service fee).

 

[IXLR8]

We have seen it in the CK25 and 30.
I think we did one on and old style DK40 also.
From what I understand it was a hardness spec on the internal gears.
Yes it was corrected.

Rick, is there something we can check 'in the field' easily to see if our injection pumps might be heading down this path to failure? Is it easy to pull the pump enough to look at the gears and see what kind of condition they are in? Is there a cover we can pull to look at things? I have 356 hrs on my CK30, this is going to be a busy summer and I would rather not have any surprises. TIA

 

[KiotiDave]

Hi,
You don't want to mess with the injector pump if it is not having a problem.
Like Rick, we have had a couple of injector pumps fail as well. They will usually stick in the full open or idle position. This is a very widely used injector pump and the rate of failure is extremely low, condidering the number of engines this is used on.
Check with your dealer, he should be able to help you out.
Remember, do not take it apart with plans to put it back in, this also is precisely shimmed to work with the engine timing.
KiotiDave

 

[Highbeam]

My 2005 purchased CK30 has not had a single injector pump issue in the last 787 hours.

Also, I have bought items from Rick and other dealers from this site as a small token of appreciation for the time that they do spend here.

 

[MichiganIron]

Your selling dealer should give you any and all information you would need about an injection pump failure, or any other issue concerning your tractor. They have the information on your tractor to properly answer any qustions or concerns you have.

There are subtle differences in the machines based on serial number runs (production runs) and your selling dealer has the information to properly work from for any issues you may have.

 

[greenmule]

Thankyou mich iron and wallace for what little bit of info you could spare on this,guess it all adds up[little bit here,little bit there].

Yes,will ask my dealer if I ever have a fuel pump problem.

Now,whens that bbq??!!You going to have beer,me and the boys here could sure put a few away.!

 

[Gittyup]

While I was at work, the Wallace cobblers showed up and fixed my tractor.

Don't know what they did, because they didn't leave any signs that they were even there, except that the tractor is now running fine again. I must have my tractor pretty well hid. The man had to ask my neighbor where it was.

Fixed just in time too. Had a man unexpectedly show up with some concrete rubble I needed for erosion control. Put the tractor right to work.

Thanks to Wallace for the very fast and convenient service.

 

[greenmule]

Well,good,yeah that would be the only good thing about that, quick parts replacement.

See I told you guys that wallace was a fine fellow.

 

[mattman]

Gittyup what did they do to your pump just replace some gears inside?? Or was it a total pump replacement?? I am going to start adding some kind of treatment ro my fuel to help make it a little more slippery.

 

[MichiganIron]

What an interesting thread,

Please understand, we watch these forums to learn as much as we do to participate. We get an immense amount of information about how you use the tractor, what you like/dislike, and what is important to you, the user. We provide technical help at times, but we also don't want to take away from discussions that take place when a group of users is offering input on an issue. We learn from these dicussions too. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on these forums, that may or may not be dealers.

And yes, we have full time jobs, family, sleep, .....and nature calls us occasionally too.