Cub Cadet / Kohler -> not so good

[greenmule]

I was the one bashing kohler courage motors,not the poster,[you ought to read the entire thing before telling the man that].

And its a fact,those courage motors were put out to soon,many problems,some problems adressed,some not,designed to run less total hours,etc.

Now as far as cub cadet,the same people who own them own the new troy bilt junk,and every one knows the cubs of today ain't the cubs of old.

But will say its not just a cub problem,most[all brands have gotten cheaper],so if that makes you feel any better,grab on to it.

 

[TENet]

Gator, Thanks for the Honda engine lead. I'll look into it. The exhaust could be an issue, though, as well as the connection for shaft drive, but it's worth a shot. I don't mind $1200 if it fixes a $ 4K tractor.

If I got a lemon, so be it, but all you Kohler-lovers should at least admit there are some lemons out there, and some people are getting screwed. I did buy it new, and I did get Kohler-ized.

 

[TENet]

greenmule - yes, everything seems to be junk these days. A symptom of our times. All the old-line quality brands have been bought up by big corporations who cash in on the name and let the product suffer. It's shameful.

 

[rcbe]

"And its a fact,those courage motors were put out to soon,many problems,some problems adressed,some not,designed to run less total hours,etc."

Allegations, perhaps - but, not facts.

 

[greenmule]

Well a fact to me is if you tell me your kohler courage motor blowed up[cause,why would you lie to me,I don't even know you?},now do a search for tractor lawnmower web site talk forums,if you read enough,you'll come to same conclusion I did,[well maybe not],but like I said,did some research when buying new mower this spring,and didn't buy courage,but the really sad part,is after doing said research and learning that those courage motors were having major problems,bought a LT200 snapper,with a b/s motor,well,that briggs motor with 10 hours or so started popping and backfiring,its now at dealers,so........

 

[cdcole]

The old Cub Cadets with the cast iron Kohlers and hydrostatic transmissions were the best. BTW - if you do go with the Honda - ensure drop in capability. I put a Honda in a John Deere 317 and it took me two weekends - it worked but it was not a drop in. A drop in can be switched in 3-4 hours.

 

[diesel_nut]

Been reading on here a while and this is the first Command engine problem I have seen.

 

[greenmule]

Well you must not read real carefull,cause I said my 15 year old sears lawnmower had a kohler command and at about 60 hours blew a head gasket.

In this thread.

SEARS,CUB HUSKY,whatever,kohler command is a kohler command.

 

[VinceSMTA]

I had the end cap of a rod on Honda fall off after about 4 years of use (I would guess with about 160 hrs...no hour meter on it) and wreck the engine. Does this mean that all Honda's are junk. I really don't think so. With anything mechanical you run the risk of break downs, its just the way it is. I ended up ordering another Honda to put in the sod cutter and its been running strong for over 6 years now...probably the best purchase I ever put on the boss's credit card! I guess what I am saying is that with any engine manufacturer there is going to be a percentage of engines in which they put out that are going to fail no matter what. That's just the way it goes. I would have no trouble recommending a Command engine to a friend as it is widely used in all types of applications and by many different manufacturers. Hopefully you have better luck with your next engine, no matter what brand. Good Luck

 

[savageactor7]

TENet go here and see how the poster Avalancher finally got a rep to get him a new engine. Pretty sure the solution is on the last couple of pages.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=73417&highlight=avalancher+tractor

As far as I'm concerned MTD brought disgrace to the 'made in America' phrase. Sure go ahead and build entry level stuff but don't tell me people won't pay more for quality.