08 CHEVY

[nmu98]

Here's some more features: How about an extra (6th) gear? How about more gears that lock (2-6)? How about bigger input/ouput shafts & tailshaft? How about manual shift feature? How about much longer warranty? How about a proportional trans temp gauge instead of a dummy gauge?

I'll take those over a trans too "dumb" to not slip before it grenades inside and costs the owner thousands in repairs!!

You sound like a never ending chevy commercial Heaven forbid anything be wrong with a gm drivetrain

 

[Diamondpilot]

I love it!


Chris

 

[tinman955]

Im with builder on this one also guys, ive been in the used car business for over 37 yrs and at least here in the northeast part of the country GM trucks always bring more money at the auctions than any other truck including foreign. Now tell me how that many people are wrong,lol!!! Seems to me that means they are well liked by the majority for many reasons.

 

[Builder]

You sound like a never ending chevy commercial Heaven forbid anything be wrong with a gm drivetrain

I guess the truth hurts???

Give me something superior about Ford's diesel drivetrain and you and chris the pilot/truck brochure guy can put me in my place!

 

[Builder]

Im with builder on this one also guys, ive been in the used car business for over 37 yrs and at least here in the northeast part of the country GM trucks always bring more money at the auctions than any other truck including foreign. Now tell me how that many people are wrong,lol!!! Seems to me that means they are well liked by the majority for many reasons.

Yeah, but Ford has a man step.

I have no doubt Ford does some things better than GM in trucks. Neither has it "all over" the other brand.

 

[tinman955]

YouTube - Chevy Silverado | "Man Step"

HAHA

 

[jeffster]

Though I obviously have a preference for my Dmax, I don't think I am biased by saying that I would choose the Ford dead last over the other options. I actually love the look of the Ford over all the others, and for the most part, I like the interior as well. However, I am surrounded by friends and coworkers that all have diesel 3/4+ trucks. The Ford guys have had more problems than I could dare take the time to list. This is obviously not counting the older 7.3 which were great (we have one as well). For example, my buddy has an F-350 dually he uses for pulling his horse trailer and for a daily driver. Ford had to buy back his first truck as it was in the shop probably 30 times in a year. Just ridiculous. His replacement truck (same truck just a year newer) started off much better, but at around 50k miles, it is in the shop once a month now (at least). I have another friend with a similar issue. My next-door neighbor had a 6.0 that completely grenaded so he let Ford replace it under warranty and then just traded it for a Dodge (which seems to be a pretty nice truck). Ok, so now on to the 6.4. We have a neighbor that has one that actually drives around town with LEMON painted in yellow in his back window. He has had all kinds of problems with it, not to mention the MPG is around 11 unloaded. Maybe they'll get it right with the Scorpion engine, but there is no way I would even consider a Ford diesel at this time.

So, while I agree GM is far from perfect (tranny lines, ISS, crappy leather, etc.), I just don't think Ford is a viable option from a reliability perspective anymore. Again, maybe with Scorpion they'll get it right and get back on track. I would love to see them succeed as I have respect for them for not relying on the taxpayer so far in this stupid ridiculous financial mess.

 

[Builder]

Wow, never knew anyone could have more horror stories than our resident pilot & ford guy.

I don't care about the financial part too much. GM trucks aren't going anywhere. I think the engineers & workers at GM need not be punished because the financial department and the union managers ran the Good Mother into the ground. GM has done too much good for our country's history & military to just go away.

I buy the best American made alternative first. For me that's still GM. Next time it might be Ford. If both suck, then dodge....I mean....fiat.

 

[JESSE1]

I've had four SuperDuties since '99 and they've all been good trucks. Two 7.3's, an '04 6.0 and now an '08 6.4. No problems with any of the engines or transmissions. No problems with the trucks at all, actually.

I buy what I feel is the best American made product produced. For me that's Ford. I am proud of the fact Ford is able to make it on their own and didn't have to get money from Uncle Sugar. I wish nothing but the best for GM and Chrysler. Competition brings out the best in everyone.

 

[nmu98]

I guess the truth hurts???

Give me something superior about Ford's diesel drivetrain and you and chris the pilot/truck brochure guy can put me in my place!

No matter what I say, you will turn it around. We are discussing opinions here.. For example, i say the tranny cooler lines leak and its not normal.... You think they seep, and thats normal.....

I would rather have this discussion in 2011 when GM comes out with a STIFFER frame, and a 6.000 pound front end that is coil sprung. The end of the torsion bar BS. who knows, the new sheet metal on that truck might be nice also. I have not seen the concept of it yet.