IH 234 Hydraulic Pressure/Relief Valve

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jbos333

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Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me a rundown on hydraulic pressure testing. My 234 is a gear drive and has a loader on it. It has around 600 or so hours on it. I have replaced the mesh screen filter in the bottom of the transmission. It seems like the loader/3 pt. has gotten weaker over the years(this was my dad's tractor before mine). I was thinking of checking the relief valve/pressure somehow but I have no idea how/where to start. If I have to buy a gauge/fittings I would be willing to do so.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know! Thanks!
 
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First, if you have a manual, find out what the operating pressure is, or should be. Here is the reason, If your pump is weak and can not get up to the operating pressure, the relief will never come on. If for example, your pump is putting out 2500 psi, then just about anything else on the tractor should be relieved at around 2350 psi. Say, that on your tractor, that is what things should be, then you need to put the gage just off the pump, to see if it is 2500 psi. To check relief pressure, you could put a gage after the valve, in-line with the hose, using a tee and fittings to connect the gage. Activate the valve to lift or lower the bucket to the stops. If the relief valve is working, you should hear, and see the relief pressure on the gage. If the relief is not working, then you could have a leaking valve, or a cylinder bypassing. If a relief valve is leaking, you will not build up enough pressure to get the job done. You can maybe do about half to a third of the tractor capability. If you have a leak somewhere else in the system, that can prevent the pressure build up. You can check the pressure at the PS, or any other valve in the system.

If you were to lose 500 psi, you would lose about 3500 lbs of force on a cylinder capability of 17,671 lbs. You might say, I don't have no where that force, and that would be true, if it were not for the fact that the cylinder is pushing at an angle, and the placement of the lift position on the arms, has a lot to do with the lifting force. That cylinder on a straight push at 2500 psi, is capability of pushing 17,671 lbs. I used a 3 in cyl, at 2500 psi for reference.
 
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j j - thanks for the reply....I'm gonna have to look for the pressure info somewhere because the only manual I have doesn't list those specs. Maybe a repair manual is what I need, I only have the "operator" manual.

Actually, I had my eye on a used Kioti 45 hp TLB...maybe buying that will solve my problem!
 
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I own a Mitsubishi compact and they made the IH and CIH compacts and I often refer to the CIH website for parts. It is a little hard to navigate but find their parts search and type in 234 and it will take you to a section divided into comprehensive schematics of the tractor. This is by no means a replacement for a repair manual but you may find it handy from time to time. An I&T repair manual is available from ag-central.com for about $25.00.

My particular tractor is very similar to the 254/255 series and am 99% sure the 234 uses the same hydraulic pump since Mitsubishi's "crossover" to the 234 uses the same one. Mine is rated at about 1950 psi so I would say it is a safe bet that is in the ball park for your tractor. A 3000psi gauge is only about $15.00 and the fitting you will need are available at most farm supply stores and pretty reasonable too.
 
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Kernopelli,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. At least now I have a rough idea of the psi figure. Actually, if you don't mind, could you clue me in as to where I can most easily plumb in the gauge? Maybe somewhere I could leave it permanently for future ref.?
 
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jbos333 ,

Installing the pressure gage, just about anywhere you can see it. Probably up by the loader valve on the input side, using a tee, and fittings for the gage. This way, you can test cylinder pressure and relief pressure. You will only see true pressure if you deadhead the pump. I would only do that momentarily. What you will see while using the loader, is varying pressures, and as you extend or retract the cylinders all the way, the relief valve will kick in and that will be your loader pressure. Anywhere you want to test the pressure, install a tee and cap off the tee. That will be your test point for the gage.
 
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j j - thanks for the reply....I'm gonna have to look for the pressure info somewhere because the only manual I have doesn't list those specs. Maybe a repair manual is what I need, I only have the "operator" manual.

Actually, I had my eye on a used Kioti 45 hp TLB...maybe buying that will solve my problem!

Not sure if you already fixed this or not but International/Case relief valves generally have the relief pressure stamped on the top of the valve. If you valve isn't rusty you should be able to look at it still installed and read the number off the top of the valve.
 

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