Cutting/trenching ice

   / Cutting/trenching ice #31  
Any chance you can drain the pond and simply lay it out?

pond ? OP says he laying down 22000' of pipe!! Is this straight across or in circular pattern ? Looks like we don't have enough info here. How big is this lake? Is this his lake? what the pvc pipe for ? How deep is the lake ?
What equipment is he planning to use ? what if the lake doesnt freeze over this winter ? Isnt it more feasable to do this with a barge with couple scuba divers in summer time ?
 
   / Cutting/trenching ice #32  
I glanced at the guys recent posting stats...we may never know what he wants to do...
 
   / Cutting/trenching ice #34  
Me thinks the Wisconsin DNR will have something to say about this. We need three permitts jsut to go under a creek then we get to pay for a girl to watch the crew work all day. Directional borign would be the way to go. Fish finder for depth and bore away. pull HDPE back and fuse the joints. MAy get long in the rod department.
 
   / Cutting/trenching ice #35  
I glanced at the guys recent posting stats...we may never know what he wants to do...

I thought the same thig BoBo. I hate it when you get a 'teaser-thread' from a new member, then they're gone forever! He's a Platinum Member! Maybe he's just tied up with other things........~Scotty
 
   / Cutting/trenching ice #36  
Maybe he found out the ice ain't as thick as he thought.....
 
   / Cutting/trenching ice #38  
I watched a cool show last night and they showed ice breakers, which are basically excavators that float and break ice for ships to get through. They hit some really hard ice and had to use a what looked like a PTO trencher behind a large kubota to cut through the ice. It wasnt fast enough for them though so the brought in a Bobcat T320 with an asphalt cutter and it cut the ice like butter. What a cool show. This may work for you.
 
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#39  
Sorry, been busy with cut up of the old system and trying to keep the poly out of the landfill. I'll try to get back more often now that the old poly is cut up and I'm not running in the evenings.

I knew I could count on you guys here for some healthy discussion. BEPCO Home Page has some info. Also search on eau pleine fish kill and you'll see what the buzz is about.

Open water buoyed deployment was my suggestion, but not sure if that will happen yet. It's getting late in the season.

Essentially, the project has been mapped out with GPS coordinates and using slots in the ice we can precisely lay the lines w/o wind issues. The issue is to cut the slot in a productive manner.


Back in 1981 they used a small dozer and a "root cutter" of some sort. Stump grinder I guess, but the width of these heads is narrow.

Ditch Witch would do it but SLOW and needs greasing every .5-1hr of cutting.

Paralell chain saws etc also being considered.

Old school saws would work, but again the paralell thing.





Me thinks the Wisconsin DNR will have something to say about this. We need three permitts jsut to go under a creek then we get to pay for a girl to watch the crew work all day. Directional borign would be the way to go. Fish finder for depth and bore away. pull HDPE back and fuse the joints. MAy get long in the rod department.

No issues with DNR permits here. They were part of the original system install and in on the new install.





If you have a hydrostatic tractor, of 20 hp or so, then a trencher like the one I built might work. It has several problems, but most of which are tied to a gear tractor pulling it faster than the teeth could stand, and them loading up and breaking shear pins. The teeth were 3" wide flatbar.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/71073-trencher-poorboys-stump-grinder.html

David from jax

That is almost exactly what I was thinking. serrate the teeth though for more chipping and less cutting.

I have 44 HP hydro (35PTO) and juiced it with 15% larger injectors for some more grunt.
 

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