R1 versus R4

[SPYDERLK]

Larry,

Totally agree, however, there's not much way to eliminate the "challenges" when R-4's are the only realistic option on a TLB, right?

R-1's would never cut it for most TLBs because they're not made for the daily pounding & loader work and frequent driving over roads, broken concrete, etc.

On a CUT, R-4's are not as good for traction as R-1's, but let's face it, driving over my Customer's property with R-1's means a lot deeper ruts & more injury than R-4's. I also use my CUT for harley raking, loader work, etc. I have to drive down the shoulder of roads, cross driveways, etc. For those types of scenarios, R-4's are a good choice. I've seen hundreds of different contractors equipment in my life and can't remember the last time I saw R-1's on anything they put on a jobsite. Not a skid steer, a CUT, or a backhoe.
[SNIP]
We don't disagree here, but I think to simply state R-4's are "useless" or "stink" is a myopic, uninformed view since [R-1's are not available on almost all construction equipment] or won't work for many many users.

[Right there is why you dont see them.] It is a major deterrent to those who would choose to outfit some with hi-ply R1s with appropriate foam fill.

Construction sites rarely require max traction - theres another machine or another way, so they err on the side of caution, not to mention being forced there by so much caution preventing the availability of options. That essentilly happens with tractor buyers who have R4s foisted on them at sale because theyre on the lot. They tried it with me too. Fortunately Id sat on [somebody elses] R4s once after being familiar with R1s. Rude awakening. Took a hard look at the reasons. Too hard bodied and pressured, smaller diameter, slick tread.
larry

 

[MossRoad]

Then I'm sure you can understand why R-4's are the tire of choice for the work I and many others do.

I never said they weren't!

And therein lies the rub. I understand why people need R4s, you understand why they need R4s, I agree that some people need R4s and you agree that some people need R4s. Yet when I said they were the wrong tire for my needs on my machine you questioned my abilities as an operator.

Now if you'll excuse me, I now have to go get stitches in my tongue!!!

 

[Danno1]

Danno1,
There's no mention of Industrial tires in your post but what you're basicly saying is Ag tires are superior to all other tractor tires yes ? If so, I agree.


MissouriThunder

MT,

I wasn't saying that anything was better than any other. All have their place. I was just posting the chart as the OP was asking about the rice paddy tires (R2).

The industrials tires are labelled as R4 in the chart.

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[missourithunder]

Danno1 wrote - "I wasn't saying that anything was better than any other. All have their place."

Danno1,
Very good point and I re-read your chart and found the R4s. Thanks.

MissouriThunder

 

[Builder]

Construction sites rarely require max traction -

Buwahahahahahahahaha!!! OMG, That there might be the funniest post I've ever read!!! You gotta be KIDDIN me!!!

I've been on construction sites so muddy & slipperty where workers can't even WALK across them!!

 

[SPYDERLK]

[Right there is why you dont see them.] It is a major deterrent to those who would choose to outfit some with hi-ply R1s with appropriate foam fill.

Construction sites rarely require max traction - theres another machine or another way, so they err on the side of caution, not to mention being forced there by so much caution preventing the availability of options. That essentialy happens with tractor buyers who have R4s foisted on them at sale because theyre on the lot. They tried it with me too. Fortunately Id sat on [somebody elses] R4s once after being familiar with R1s. Rude awakening. Took a hard look at the reasons. Too hard bodied and pressured, smaller diameter, slick tread.
larry

Construction sites rarely require max traction...

Buwahahahahahahahaha!!! OMG, That there might be the funniest post I've ever read!!! You gotta be KIDDIN me!!!

I've been on construction sites so muddy & slipperty where workers can't even WALK across them!!

Did you have a a point to make there?

 

[Builder]

Did you have a a point to make there?

yeah man.....that joke you just told...... "Construction sites rarely require max traction" That's some funny stuff right there! Hope you don't mind if I take that one to work to share tomorrow!!!!

We were working on freshly thawed frost back in March/April. It's a workout just trying to stay on your feet!!!!! Add to that working with tools or driving equipment through it.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[bpattie]

boy thought this thread had calmed down some , but I check back and see it has flared up again. maybe everybody should just agree to disagree.

 

[Builder]

I'm sorry......I just can't stop laughing at that joke "construction sites rarely require max traction".......sorry....ahahahaha.....won't happen again.....OMG. aahhhahahahaha.......sorry.

 

[SPYDERLK]

yeah man.....that joke you just told...... "Construction sites rarely require max traction" That's some funny stuff right there! Hope you don't mind if I take that one to work to share tomorrow!!!!

We were working on freshly thawed frost back in March/April. It's a workout just trying to stay on your feet!!!!! Add to that working with tools or driving equipment through it.

Thanks for the laugh.

I'm sorry......I just can't stop laughing at that joke "construction sites rarely require max traction".......sorry....ahahahaha.....won't happen again.....OMG. aahhhahahahaha.......sorry.

So, I guess your point is not logically consistent... or else construction site people just cant figure out, or dont care, what they need to deal with slippery conditions better.