Only in America

[irwin]

This is one of those topics that raises my BP. Personal responsibility or accident should be accepted as such.
We all pay everytime someone successfully sues a large corp, whether frivolous or not. We pay with higher pricing in general, then higher pricing due to extra safety add-ons. (yes, some safety equipment added on has been a good thing) Frivolous lawsuits are a plague, but some lawsuits have done all of us good. We need to draw a line, call it a sanity line. You sue and lose, you can be sued for wasting the court's time, if you are found to be on the wrong side of the sanity line you pay a fine equal to the costs of you're original suit. Not a great solution but it will get the point accross.
I know a few people that would sue everyone that was remotely connected to a situation that caused them pain, whether it was their fault or not. Until people like that are sanctioned this trend will continue to grow as more younger people become adults without learning personal responsibility.

The big issue is many lawmakers are lawyers first, they are our leaders second. $$$$$$$

I have a skid steer, not the easiest machine to see everything around you.. I am so careful, even when I'm the only one around, but I'm sure someone could easily sneak up behind me and get run over (I might not even know I hit something for awhile) Good grief would that suc...

 

[blueriver]

Well just look at the top of this page ... because the post has the words ... Lawsuit, Attorney, Lawyer ... The ads are right on the top ...

It all boils down to insurance and money ... with out the insurance no law suit ... got no money and they can't get anything.

 

[dave1949]

It all boils down to insurance and money ... with out the insurance no law suit ... got no money and they can't get anything.

Not exactly BlueRiver, you can have your earnings attached for a long, long time.

 

[two_bit_score]

I feel badly for the poor little girl, but am happy that the jury ruled correctly. You are right, it is too easy to sue these days.

Mark

Not that it's 'too easy' to sue these days but the right people don't get the snot sued out of them when they need it.

Too often insurance companies have an opportunity to settle and pay a reasonable amount but refuse because they think they can do etter before a jury that has heard 'tot reform' preached from the rooftop of every corporate HQ in the country.

From what I saw in the article this suit may not have had any merit what so ever.

That doesn't mean that every suit is too easily filed or too easily settled for money.

The pendulum always swings in these type of issues from one extreme to the other. Right now, in my opinion, it's too far to the right. In this case, though, it appears the jury acted correctly.

 

[blueriver]

Not exactly BlueRiver, you can have your earnings attached for a long, long time.

Earnings are money ... unless you work for chicken feed ...

 

[6sunset6]

The pendulum always swings in these type of issues from one extreme to the other. Right now, in my opinion, it's too far to the right. In this case, though, it appears the jury acted correctly.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Sometimes we need to remember where we used to be. My grandfather imigrated here around 1910. He was around 20 I think. He worked in a wire polishing mill in NYC. He got his finger caught in the wire and it was gone at the first joint. They wrapped a towel around it, walked him to the door and told him he was fired.
I don't like all the law suits and high payments . Accidents are usually a combination of events with enough blame to go all around. Equipment has gotten a lot safer in my lifetime but it has been a long fight . It is unfortunate that the path to safer equipment has taken this detour to high payments with a hugh chunk going to the lawyers, who have not suffered at all.

 

[The Haymaker]

I surely hope none of you find out I send my child to daycare, things happen there very often according to the news, far more often than I see an equipment injury........

I also take him in my car, on my motorcycle and dirtbikes, allow him to play in the tub (even when full of warm water!), I let him breath dust from his sandbox, eat with REAL fork and spoons (and a BUTTERKNIFE!), I even let him ride his tricycle without a helmet!

Bottom line is that he is having fun, he is learning the basics of being a redneck boy, and I feel he is safe. The problem with liberals not being able to mind their own business when it comes to the safety of others children is that they are black and white. here is no "Gray" area. Someone will say that I could hit a huge pothole and bounce him out to land under the spinning rotary cutter. problem is that I may be doing a WHOPPING 1 mile an hour, know my property, and wouldn't allow him on the unit if bushogging, tilling, or using the fel. Not enough hands to hold him and do the task. Wow, imagine that, despite my multiple attempts to murder him daily, I still seem to be able to decide all by my lonesome as to where to draw the line. Whoa, what a concept.

Anyone who believes a village is required to raise a child needs a bit of an awakening. It takes a pair of parents with their feet on the ground to do it properly.

Now to go show him how to fire my big scary black assault weapon at the cat. Anyone know how to get his fingers to reach the trigger?

 

[dave1949]

Earnings are money ... unless you work for chicken feed ...

Yes BlueRiver, your money is what the judge presiding over your settlement is going to order you to hand over. So you get a choice, live on chicken feed or work and hand over. It isn't much to choose between.

 

[dave1949]

Good evening Haymaker -

I agree with your general point, many parents tend to be a bit over protective. They don't give their kids time be kids either IMHO. Everything is scheduled from Monday-Sunday, morning to evening. It's a lot different than when I was kid in the 50's.

My Dad started taking me hunting when I was 10 yrs. old. I carried a single-shot 20 ga. We rode hundreds of miles on bicycles and didn't know helmets existed. In the summer we would be out all afternoon, sometimes a mile from home off in a woods or whatever, no adults around. Nobody worried about us.

How does a child learn responsibility when they are responsible for nothing on their own initiative?

Dave.

 

[Duffster]

There are some things I think small children should not be allowed to do.

1. Feel of the chain on a chain saw while in use.

2. Count the teeth on a skill saw by feeling of it while in use.

3. Checking to see if the blade is turning, by sticking their hand underneath the deck on a lawn mower running at full throttle.

4. Riding on a riding lawn mower with someone else while mowing the lawn.

5. Riding on a tractor with someone else while being used as a farm tool.

6. Riding on tractor while a rotary cutter, disc, plow, tiller or rotary tiller or other implement is being used.

7. The list goes on and on.

We, as adults have a responsibility to insure small children do none of the above and stand ready to be held accountable if and when our actions expose small children to an action that a reasonable and prudent person would have deemed dangerous, and that exposure results in injury regardless how minor to the child. How an adult can expose a small child to something that is extremely dangerous and then when the child is injured, say "Oh Well It Was An Accident" and I don't see why people want me to be held accountable and responsible is beyond my level of comprehension.

I was agreeing entirely until you got to number 4.