Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive?

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   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive? #11  
Just incase you haven't done so yet, I would recommend test driving each tractor or see if the dealer will let you try one for a day or two. When I was looking at tractors I had tried Kubota, Kioti, Mahindra, NH, and Deere. It was obvious how much more Kubota, NH, and Deere has put into ergonomics than Kioti and especially Mahindra.

I was looking at slightly smaller tractors than you, but most likely it still carries over. I ended up finding a very little used JD 110 tlb for a good price, so I never did end up choosing between new tractors.
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive?
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Just incase you haven't done so yet, I would recommend test driving each tractor or see if the dealer will let you try one for a day or two. When I was looking at tractors I had tried Kubota, Kioti, Mahindra, NH, and Deere. It was obvious how much more Kubota, NH, and Deere has put into ergonomics than Kioti and especially Mahindra.

I was looking at slightly smaller tractors than you, but most likely it still carries over. I ended up finding a very little used JD 110 tlb for a good price, so I never did end up choosing between new tractors.

Actually I test drove the Mahindra 4535, 5035 and 5530, Kubota M5040HD and M7040, Massey Ferguson 1600 series, Kioti , TYM 503, and Montana U5784.

The ergonomics on the Kubota appealed to me most. However, I liked the handling, seat, platform size, standard R4 Tires, bucket size, and overall weight to size relationship of the Mahindra 5035 best, but I did not like the electric over hydraulic PTO. The controls on both the Massey and Kioti I liked the least and entry exit off the platform of both was tight, as I am 6'4" tall and 250 lbs.

In talking with six service departments / mechanics at multi brand dealerships who offered Mahindra with at least one additional competitive brand, I could not find one who criticized the Indian made Mahindra tractors or engines for lack of reliability or durability. To the contrary I was was advised by a Montana dealer and a TYM dealer that the Mahindra was a better choice where high load was expected such as heavy dirt work. The only warranty issues I found were a bad Bosch Injection pump replaced under warranty and issues on early 4030/5030 models with an injection pump switch.

These same service reps commented very favorably on both Mahindra's customer and dealer warranty support, when it was needed, while giving scathing reviews of some of their competitors. They all commented favorably on the promptness with which Mahindra's parts centers delivered parts to the dealers, providing next day delivery at Mahindra's cost if a customer's tractor was inoperable and the customer's need was critical.

BTW Mahindra is rated among the worlds top three tractor manufacturer's as referenced here:

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Mahindra Tractors, the farm equipment division of Mahindra & Mahindra, builds and sources tractors that are sold worldwide across six continents.[1] Mahindra is also among the top three tractor manufacturers in the world[2]. Mahindra has a huge consumer base in India, China and America and a growing base in Australasia. The company builds more tractors in India than any other manufacturer,[3] and has the capacity to build 150,000 tractors a year.[4] In 1963, M&M formed a joint venture with International Harvester to manufacture tractors carrying the Mahindra nameplate for the Indian market.[5] Armed with engineering, tooling and manufacturing know-how gained from this relationship, M&M developed its first tractor, the B-275.Mahindra compact tractors and utility tractors are some of the toughest, most durable on the planet. Mahindra Tractors with sales of nearly 85,000 units annually is one of the largest tractor companies in the world, and is number one in sales in India - the largest tractor market in the world.[2]


The three tractors I now own to maintain 300 acres are made by Ford, Case and White with HP from 35 to 120. Three months ago I would never have considered a 50 HP tractor made in India. However, after doing a lot more research on the current tractor industry and becoming more familiar with Mahindra and it's models of tractors... I came away favorably impressed.

I was surprised to learn that several models of John Deere tractors under 75 HP were also made in India.

I was surprised to find that the only tractor manufacturer to win a Dr, Deming Award for manufacturing excellence was...Mahindra.

I was surprised to find that Mahindra was the recipient of the Japan Quality Medal, the only tractor company worldwide to be bestowed this Honor.

I was surprised to find that in September of 2009 Mahindra tractor sales were up 56% over last year and that Mahindra & Mahindra project to become the worlds largest tractor manufacturer by 2010.

I was surprised to find the following statistics on Mahindra's web site reflecting the opinion's of those who owned both Mahindra tractors and competitive tractors including Deere and Kubota:

Superior Performing Mahindra Tractors - Heavier, sturdier chassis, higher lift capacity and solid components

The further I dug, the more impressed I became with the company and nothing I found on the tractors I had seen or tested had diminished that positive impression.

Are they the best tractor on the market at any price...? No.

But IMHO they may be the best value on the market for a well made, durable no frills machine from a company that is emphasizing customer service and support while experiencing phenominal growth in a down economy.

Kerry
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive? #13  
I think It's more of a personal choice then anything else, why do people buy Fords over Chevy's or Dodge or vice verse? You buy what you can afford or what appeals to you more, style comfort, reliability. I know of No Mahindra Dealers anywhere remotely close to where I live, yet there are many NH, JD, Kubota dealers less the 30 minutes away.This to me is very important issue, that being said even if a Mahindra dealer was close I still would not purchase there tractor. For me I do not like there style and the layout of the deck and controls. Hey, It's still America right you can buy what you want. Good luck with your Mahindra.
DevilDog
 
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Owenslee,
Just so there's absolutely no dobt in your mind, do what I did and shop the same package that you want to all the Missouri Kubota dealers. You're going to see a huge price difference amongst them. Fletcher's (Farmington) was on the high end of my expedition and Ozark Power equipment is an absolute ripp-off. Fritz implement in Monnett was the best in price and service. Hope this helps.

MissouriThunder



Meyer Implement Co. 573.324.5261
Wayde's Equipment (573) 775-3575
Scott's Tractor & Equipment (816) 532-8288
Schaeperkoetter Sales & Service 636-433-2256
O'Dell Tractor Co., Inc
Mordt Tractor 636-528-8575 636 528-8575
Fritz Implement (417) 235-5222
Fletcher Equipment Co., Inc (573) 756-4121 Farmington
Farm Equipment Sales, Inc
Schweissguth Brothers
Bangert Tractor Sales, Inc
Hartzler Equipment Company
Art's Lawn Mower Shop
Ozark Power Center Inc 417-866-5588
Tuley Farm & Home, LLC 573-624-2723
Nelson Tractor and Equipment
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive?
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Owenslee,
Just so there's absolutely no dobt in your mind, do what I did and shop the same package that you want to all the Missouri Kubota dealers. You're going to see a huge price difference amongst them. Fletcher's (Farmington) was on the high end of my expedition and Ozark Power equipment is an absolute ripp-off. Fritz implement in Monnett was the best in price and service. Hope this helps.

MissouriThunder



Meyer Implement Co. 573.324.5261
Wayde's Equipment (573) 775-3575
Scott's Tractor & Equipment (816) 532-8288
Schaeperkoetter Sales & Service 636-433-2256
O'Dell Tractor Co., Inc
Mordt Tractor 636-528-8575 636 528-8575
Fritz Implement (417) 235-5222
Fletcher Equipment Co., Inc (573) 756-4121 Farmington
Farm Equipment Sales, Inc
Schweissguth Brothers
Bangert Tractor Sales, Inc
Hartzler Equipment Company
Art's Lawn Mower Shop
Ozark Power Center Inc 417-866-5588
Tuley Farm & Home, LLC 573-624-2723
Nelson Tractor and Equipment

Thank you sir for the work preparing this list and your observations.

Of the quotes I received, Schaeperkoetter was the lowest, by a small margin, but the tractor was old inventory they had for almost a year. Wayde's was lowest at 10% off MSRP for a current 2009 model but was firm on price. Davis Farm in Perryville did not have M5040HD but did offer some reasonable but higher prices on both a M6040HD and M7040HD. One dealer emailed me back after receiving my request and declined to quote because I was not in his "sales area"...yet I received other quotes from out of state....further away than this dealer.

Of 27 requests for quotes to Kubota dealers in Western/Southern Illinois, Missouri and Northern Arkansas...I received only 7 reply's. Tractor business must be good....

Thanks again...but I verbally committed this morning to a Mahindra 4535 from Tatum's in Anderson that was transferred to The Tractor Barn in Republic. Final price was $23050...a little over 16% off MSRP.

Kerry
 
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Maybe too late, but a lot of Kubota owners here bought through barlows in Kentucky. I know I got a very good quote from them on my BX, the lowest, though I decided to stay local. Your a lot closer to KY than me, however. If your willing to shopped out of state, I'd given them a call too before signing papers on the Mahindra.

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If you enter a reasonable, but low offer for the M5040, they should come back with their best deal. Total low ball offers may not get a response. Or you could just call them for a quote.
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive? #17  
I suggest you look at the Mahindra boards and see what people who actually own a Mahindra says about them, I think the Mahindra's look good and are priced nice but I have never operated one, That is a key as well you need to tell the dealers to let you take a spin around the lot on the machines to get a feel for them.

I have been on alot of tractors, both full size and cut, and I can honestly say I will probably never own anything but Kubota, I am sold on their quality and dealer network.

Just my .02

-Mike
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive?
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#18  
I suggest you look at the Mahindra boards and see what people who actually own a Mahindra says about them, I think the Mahindra's look good and are priced nice but I have never operated one, That is a key as well you need to tell the dealers to let you take a spin around the lot on the machines to get a feel for them.

-Mike

Mike,

I have been a regular there for about a month and have yet to hear a negative review on the 40 hp and larger tractors. Most have been very positive. According to the Mahindra website that is not unusual:


Superior Performing Mahindra Tractors - Heavier, sturdier chassis, higher lift capacity and solid components


I have driven several of the Mahindra series 30 and 35 and have been very impressed. My dad who is a lifelong John Deere owner was also surprised at how good they looked and operated. For the money they are very impressive.

Kerry
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive? #19  
And now with Mahindra having a 5 year warranty how can ya go wrong?
 
   / Kubota makes excellent tractors...but why so MUCH more expensive? #20  
Owenslee,
Just so there's absolutely no dobt in your mind, do what I did and shop the same package that you want to all the Missouri Kubota dealers. You're going to see a huge price difference amongst them. Fletcher's (Farmington) was on the high end of my expedition and Ozark Power equipment is an absolute ripp-off. Fritz implement in Monnett was the best in price and service. Hope this helps.

MissouriThunder



Meyer Implement Co. 573.324.5261
Wayde's Equipment (573) 775-3575
Scott's Tractor & Equipment (816) 532-8288
Schaeperkoetter Sales & Service 636-433-2256
O'Dell Tractor Co., Inc
Mordt Tractor 636-528-8575 636 528-8575
Fritz Implement (417) 235-5222
Fletcher Equipment Co., Inc (573) 756-4121 Farmington
Farm Equipment Sales, Inc
Schweissguth Brothers
Bangert Tractor Sales, Inc
Hartzler Equipment Company
Art's Lawn Mower Shop
Ozark Power Center Inc 417-866-5588
Tuley Farm & Home, LLC 573-624-2723
Nelson Tractor and Equipment

Just an FYI, Bangert went toes up some time ago and Davis out of Perryville
opened a new Dealership in Fruitland although it shows a Jackson address. They handle New Holland and Kubota.
 
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