telco technology rant

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#21  
say again? :)

soundguy
 
   / telco technology rant #22  
Kinda like the scene in the movie "Sergeant York" When he called home to the community store and talked with "ma". ( I think that line still runs to my house!) of course it could still be 2 cans and a string...
 
   / telco technology rant #23  
New phone switches now use VOIP to send your calls between exchanges, and you never know it. Once you digitize voice, it's just data and easy to send via networks. Phone networks are now routers and high capacity IP links. Some of the mobile base stations now use IP networks to send calls back to the switch. With 4G, voice is just data on an IP network. Telco's are in no hurry to remove POTS, because the system and copper is there and paid for long ago, but it will disappear slowly for the next few years, then I think it will disappear rather quickly. Todays generation don't use POTS, just mobile (or VOIP).
 
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#24  
I think broadband and other wireless technology will likely obsolete all but high end land lines in the not too distant future.

soundguy
 
   / telco technology rant #25  
re. Copper outside plant facilities.
True we're going to be using copper lines for our local telco provided voice and internet services (DSL, ADSL) for the next 10 yrs or so but it's a dying science for providing POTS service to every endpoint.
Now what the local telco's are doing is setting "pedestals" at strategic localtions and feeding subdivisions and business clusters POTS/DSL service from them. The pedestals are basically small digital switching centers (SLIC's) that feed back to the CO either via fibre (newer) or T1/T3 (legacy) trunking. Any lineman you see running new transport facilities on the poles is either installing fibre or coax as main trunks and copper lines from the pedestals to the endpoint.
Most of you have probably heard of DSLAMs inregards to DSL, well these pedestals house the DSLAMs.
The day where fibre is run upto the endpoint is approaching very quickly and is being done in certain locales now.

re. VOIP. As stated VOIP has been used for inter/intra CO transport for yrs. VOIP when "dedicated" for voice service is an excellent mode of transporting the spoken word.
The key to "toll quality" VOIP is guaranteed bandwidth and is measured by the transports QOS (quality of service). In dedicated networks QOS isn't as necessary as all the transmissions are voice, with alittle data thrown in (fax, dialup modem). Mixed dedicated networks such as MPLS have routers and switches w/QOS and toll quality voice isn't a problem there either. (unless the enduser doesn't purchase enough CIR (Committed Information Rate, and in this case both the voice and data will suffer, but thats another story).
A "good" toll quality conversation requires approx 32K which is achieved via voice compression. (V.729a). As long as the conversation has atleast 32K of IP broadband bandwidth available between the two endpoints, the voice quality will be just about as clear as an old POTS line point to point connection and/or dedicated T1 channel 64k connection. The problem w/using VOIP over the internet is the bandwidth cannot be guaranteed so the conversation is subject to the varying demands and conjestion present between the endpoints. Most times it's not an issue, especially in residential usage but it can be a major problem when trying to conduct business.
Depending upon the type of broadband you have, cable, DSL/ADSL there are "hub's" located at various points that combine many endpoints together and then switch them onto a main transport (fibre, T1/T3, multiple coax) to a main switching center then off to the world. Theres many points where conjestion can and does occur hense the reason why your internet gets slower at times or your VOIP conversation has static and broken speech.
Basically VOIP is all about bandwidth and the proper routers/data switches to provide QOS. If'n you've got it, its great, if'n you don't, well, it ain't so great :D

re. CO dialling plans. The FCC mandated that the little Ma & Pa CO's that are still out there be able to access the latest and greatest technology in voice/data switching that the larger more prosperous population centers with more sophisticated switching centers have and the FCC likes uniformality. Highly extensive and complicated dialing plans require the memory and processing power to provide & translate and some of the smaller Central Offices that are still providing reliable but dated voice/data services just don't have it.
Back in the day, a leading "1" signified a toll call and the 2nd digit after that (1 or 0)signified whether the call was a toll call within the present area code or a toll call to another area code. This remained unchanged for decades until the demand for tel numbers exceeded the 2nd digit indentifier requirement. Now adays a local toll free call can contain a 0 or 1 as the 2nd digit but the leading "1" is still used by landline CO's as the identifier between a toll and toll free call per FCC decree.
Some CO's have the memory and processing power to translate a call regardless if a leading "1" is dialed but many can't hense the requirement. It can get very aggravating when you have a calling plan such as a "circle 40" where any call to an endpoint that is within 40 miles of you is toll free but the CO is limited in it's processing ability to break it out so you have to remember to dial certain numbers with a leading "1" and others with the same area code without the leading "1". Just like the OP stated in his 1st post :D
Anyways, it's a limitation of the hardware thats used by the local telco thats providing your service as to why you have to dial certain digits :D
Clear as mud? :D
 
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#26  
That's exactly my point.. it's a hardware issue as some telco's won't get new stuff.

soundguy
 
   / telco technology rant #27  
That's exactly my point.. it's a hardware issue as some telco's won't get new stuff.

soundguy

If it's the Ma and Pa outfits causing all the backward compatibility issues, they probably can't afford to upgrade. I don't see any end to that until the FCC regulates them out of business. I don't have any opinion as to whether that is good or bad.

Dave.
 
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#28  
heard the same argument for ma and pa cable setups.. I see they are all digital in ourt area now and no tombstones shot up.

heck.. I can get digital cable, 5meg internet and phone service from t he local cable company where I work.. but nothing other than POTS from the telco.. who has been in business forever since the 'bell's split up way back when..... ;) go figure!

soundguy
 
   / telco technology rant #29  
heard the same argument for ma and pa cable setups.. I see they are all digital in ourt area now and no tombstones shot up.

heck.. I can get digital cable, 5meg internet and phone service from t he local cable company where I work.. but nothing other than POTS from the telco.. who has been in business forever since the 'bell's split up way back when..... ;) go figure!

soundguy

We are on a Mom & Pop cable. We are on their main fibre trunk, but the actual bandwidth is poor on the PC. The digital phone service is good enough and we only have 1 or 2 fuzzy stations on the cable TV sometimes.

They really didn't understand domain names. The company name is Bee Line Cable. Our email domain name is 'beeline-online.net'. Gee, thanks :confused:

Sadly, for about the same monthly charges and the same services, my Mom in Ohio on Time Warner has worse quality than we do.

Cell phone signals are pretty weak here. If you stand on one leg in the right spot, you might get through a conversation. I am not that mobile so the relatively higher monthly fees for cell and needing an antenna and amplifier just aren't worth it.

Dave.
 
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#30  
if cell coverage was good.. you could go broadband..

soundguy
 

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