mulching buisness?

[Robbie Hegwood]

If you already have the S300 then you could make it work. There are ways to overcome some of it's problems. Westshore has a S330 that he has worked into a pretty good mulcher. Now if you want put the VTS on it and it will dramatically improve it's performance. If you want to go this way I can give a few suggestions and Westshore and Yellow can help.

 

[WestshoreConstruction]

Steel over the tire tracks are a necessity, VTS are better allot better. You will actually go through more muck with the VTS than a dedicated track loader. A good investment would be the forestry application kit from Bobcat it comes with a screen kit for the rad, Gaurds to stop material from entering via the boom cylinders, a FOPS certified (I think) gaurd for the cab and a 3/4 " lexan windshield for the front door. Don't bother with the demolition door Bobcat sells its crap. You can also hot rod the pump on the 250,300,320 and 330 for more fuel and rpm but added heat comes with it too. I have never overheated mine nor come close but I have the application kit on both the T320 and S330. I was getting 39 GPM at the mulcher on the 330 too. Cimaf head is the most efficient in my opinion but with all chipper type mulchers not made for grinding rocks LOL. I blocked off the filter inside the cab so it only draws from the outside filter and most of the dust problems were eliminated. Nothing beats a dedicated or purpose built machine but with the right head and some experience a skid steer can do a pretty good job. Oh yeah Robbie i'll have some real good pics for you on Sunday or Monday.

 

[yellowdogsvc]

Steel over the tire tracks are a necessity, VTS are better allot better. You will actually go through more muck with the VTS than a dedicated track loader. A good investment would be the forestry application kit from Bobcat it comes with a screen kit for the rad, Gaurds to stop material from entering via the boom cylinders, a FOPS certified (I think) gaurd for the cab and a 3/4 " lexan windshield for the front door. Don't bother with the demolition door Bobcat sells its crap. You can also hot rod the pump on the 250,300,320 and 330 for more fuel and rpm but added heat comes with it too. I have never overheated mine nor come close but I have the application kit on both the T320 and S330. I was getting 39 GPM at the mulcher on the 330 too. Cimaf head is the most efficient in my opinion but with all chipper type mulchers not made for grinding rocks LOL. I blocked off the filter inside the cab so it only draws from the outside filter and most of the dust problems were eliminated. Nothing beats a dedicated or purpose built machine but with the right head and some experience a skid steer can do a pretty good job. Oh yeah Robbie i'll have some real good pics for you on Sunday or Monday.

Wanted to bring this thread up again.

I talked to Bobcat engineers and I was told that the 330 and T320 do NOT share the same pump and that I couldn't get the same pressures out of the 330's pump as I could in the T320 which is around 3650psi standard.

How did you overcome or turn up your pump on your s330?

I have been thinking about getting a T320 but didn't know if I wanted to go through that expense. I thought about VTS on the 330 but wasn't sure if the power to weight ratio would be an issue since the 330 has 7 less hp than the 320? Any thoughts on that. I know we discussed this awhile back but I lost that thread. thanks. Yellow

 

[WestshoreConstruction]

Wanted to bring this thread up again.

I talked to Bobcat engineers and I was told that the 330 and T320 do NOT share the same pump and that I couldn't get the same pressures out of the 330's pump as I could in the T320 which is around 3650psi standard.

How did you overcome or turn up your pump on your s330?

I have been thinking about getting a T320 but didn't know if I wanted to go through that expense. I thought about VTS on the 330 but wasn't sure if the power to weight ratio would be an issue since the 330 has 7 less hp than the 320? Any thoughts on that. I know we discussed this awhile back but I lost that thread. thanks. Yellow[/QUOTE

I never touched the hyd pump on the 330, you can increase the pressure a bit but what i done was the injection pump, more fuel and rpm = more power and usually more rpm is more flow, the 330 will out push the 320 any day stock vs stock with the vts and is more comfortable (Less rough) Really I wouldn't bother switching to the 320 unless the 330 is in need of replacement.

 

[yellowdogsvc]

Wanted to bring this thread up again.

I talked to Bobcat engineers and I was told that the 330 and T320 do NOT share the same pump and that I couldn't get the same pressures out of the 330's pump as I could in the T320 which is around 3650psi standard.

How did you overcome or turn up your pump on your s330?

I have been thinking about getting a T320 but didn't know if I wanted to go through that expense. I thought about VTS on the 330 but wasn't sure if the power to weight ratio would be an issue since the 330 has 7 less hp than the 320? Any thoughts on that. I know we discussed this awhile back but I lost that thread. thanks. Yellow[/QUOTE

I never touched the hyd pump on the 330, you can increase the pressure a bit but what i done was the injection pump, more fuel and rpm = more power and usually more rpm is more flow, the 330 will out push the 320 any day stock vs stock with the vts and is more comfortable (Less rough) Really I wouldn't bother switching to the 320 unless the 330 is in need of replacement.

no issues with the motor with the adjustments? How much did you adjust it? I need to do something to get the "edge".

 

[WestshoreConstruction]

no issues with the motor with the adjustments? How much did you adjust it? I need to do something to get the "edge".

More fuel until it started to smoke a bit under heavy load and about 300 rpm more ?? I can't remember what it had to start with, On my 320 I was running 2850 rpm, I think the 330 is at 2800 or so.

 

[yellowdogsvc]

More fuel until it started to smoke a bit under heavy load and about 300 rpm more ?? I can't remember what it had to start with, On my 320 I was running 2850 rpm, I think the 330 is at 2800 or so.

I get 2580 on my 330 at full throttle, no load.

 

[jamesn]

If you already have the S300 then you could make it work. There are ways to overcome some of it's problems. Westshore has a S330 that he has worked into a pretty good mulcher. Now if you want put the VTS on it and it will dramatically improve it's performance. If you want to go this way I can give a few suggestions and Westshore and Yellow can help.

the only problem with the s300 is it over heats, i operated one for quite some time with a loftness head. the only cure i found for the overheating problem was to seperate the hyd. cooler and mount it on top of the cab enclosed in a metal shroud with 2 electric cooling fans. this solved the over heating issue

 

[WestshoreConstruction]

the only problem with the s300 is it over heats, i operated one for quite some time with a loftness head. the only cure i found for the overheating problem was to seperate the hyd. cooler and mount it on top of the cab enclosed in a metal shroud with 2 electric cooling fans. this solved the over heating issue

The S330 and T320 have larger rads and more cooling than the older K models, I have never had a problem overheating but we rarely see higher than 30 deg c here. The only time it got near over heating was when I was working in a marsh with Bul rushes and the rads were completely covered, I wiped the grass, reeds off and kept on going, this was a 27 deg day too.

 

[yellowdogsvc]

the only problem with the s300 is it over heats, i operated one for quite some time with a loftness head. the only cure i found for the overheating problem was to seperate the hyd. cooler and mount it on top of the cab enclosed in a metal shroud with 2 electric cooling fans. this solved the over heating issue

For others operating Bobcat K series machines...

I operated two s300k series machines in s. Texas summers. Never had an overheat problem even in 100 deg. plus, humid weather. Radiators must not have been getting enough air or there was some restriction. A cheap fix is disposable A/C cut to fit filter put between cover and AC evaporator. It will catch most of the "fluff". You can blow out your bottom engine radiator from inside the fan cowling and then vacuum out all the crap then blow it out again from the top side. After that, I doubt you would have many cooling issues if you used the disposable filter. If, by chance, the temps started to climb, you can repeat the cleaning process. Doesn't take very long and you can do it between fill-ups in the field if necessary.