Shop Layout Software Question

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Workstead

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Is there a (relatively) simple program that will give me at least a 2D drawing so I can lay out my shop.

Ideally it would have templates for various pieces of woodworking, metalworking and welding equipment. Having 3D capabilities would be a plus. Free would be nice.

I am not a draftsman, by any stretch of the imagination, so it would have to have a short learning curve.

Is this "pie in the sky" or is there something like this "out there?"

Thanks,

Clem
 
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I have had great success with Google Sketchup! It is a free download that allows you to build 3D models very quickly. they also have a massive library online for all kinds of things. Youtube has alot of tutorials take a look at a couple of them. It seems difficult to use but spend a couple of hours and you will be hooked.
 
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I have an older version of Broaderbund Home Design 5.1 I use it for homes and floorplans, but I also used it for my shop. I draw the walls, put in the doors and windows, then select from the tools for furniture to place in the space so I can get a feel of how the space will work. I can drag the furniture around, change what direction it faces and even make it smaller or bigger. For a shop, or any space, I can select a table and change the dimensions to anything I want. To figure out where my table saw would go, I just placed a table where I thougth it might fit. Then I put other tables around for benches and storage areas. I can label each table anything that I want it to represent.

As a contractor, this has really been helpful with clients who want me to build something, but are unsure on how big they need it, or how their stuff will fit in the space. I did a storage shed over the summer that I created about a dozen different versions of how they could arrange their stuff and then added other features to it. They liked the biggest fanciest version, which meant a bigger job for me, and more money. Being able to offer the different versions for them to look at was invaluable.

I've also found that it takes several tries and versions to get the best possible layout. Once you draw it out and think you have it right, ask others for their input. There is always something that you will forget, and the more you can put into your plan, the cheaper it is to do the earlier you can plan for it. Sometimes it's really something obvious and silly, other times it's something unique that you didn't even know you wanted. A good example is with me is that I forgot to add a shop sink to my workshop. I had one in my last workshop and used it every day. It's something I absolutley wanted, but forgot about while working on layout, electrical plugs, lighting and door placement. In fact, it wasn't until I was running drain lines that my Mom asked about the shop sink.

Good luck,
Eddie
 
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Is there a (relatively) simple program that will give me at least a 2D drawing so I can lay out my shop.

Ideally it would have templates for various pieces of woodworking, metalworking and welding equipment. Having 3D capabilities would be a plus. Free would be nice.

I am not a draftsman, by any stretch of the imagination, so it would have to have a short learning curve.

Is this "pie in the sky" or is there something like this "out there?"

Thanks,

Clem

I have good results with Broaderbund 3-D home architect. I have several versions that I bought for around $10 on the clearance rack at office supply stores. It is an older program that I have that is very easy to use. It doesn't have a lot of shop tools, but it has objects that can be modified to look like them. All the objects are resizable with just a drag and drop, so you can resize a box that is supposed to be a cabinet base to whatever size you want, then you can drop a shelf on it and resize it, place it on top of the cabinet to make a table saw. You cand do these modifications while looking at it in 3d and it shows you the dimensions in real time as you stretch and shrink things to the exact same size as your tools. Most objects can be modeled with a cube and a cylinder or a modification of them. Once you build the object you can push it around and rotate it in plan view with just a mouse click. It is easier to do than it is to describe. You can use the water heater to make anything from a small as a can of soup to as large as a 24 foot above ground swimming pool, just drop it in place and drag it to the proper height and diameter. Doors and windows can be pushed around and resized in the walls in the same manner. It is by far the easiest layout tool I have ever used.
You can easily use the water heater to even model pipes and round ductwork, just lay it on its side, and stretch the length and diameter with your mouse, drag it to the proper location and you are done! Ity is easier to do than it is to describe. Once you use it you will hate to use a "real cadd software" program. It will also export dxf files for use in other programs.:cool::cool::cool::cool:

I earned my living using Autocadd, Microstation and 3D Plantview software.:eek:
 
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I have an older version of Broaderbund Home Design 5.1 I use it for homes and floorplans, but I also used it for my shop. I draw the walls, put in the doors and windows, then select from the tools for furniture to place in the space so I can get a feel of how the space will work. I can drag the furniture around, change what direction it faces and even make it smaller or bigger. For a shop, or any space, I can select a table and change the dimensions to anything I want. To figure out where my table saw would go, I just placed a table where I thougth it might fit. Then I put other tables around for benches and storage areas. I can label each table anything that I want it to represent.

As a contractor, this has really been helpful with clients who want me to build something, but are unsure on how big they need it, or how their stuff will fit in the space. I did a storage shed over the summer that I created about a dozen different versions of how they could arrange their stuff and then added other features to it. They liked the biggest fanciest version, which meant a bigger job for me, and more money. Being able to offer the different versions for them to look at was invaluable.

I've also found that it takes several tries and versions to get the best possible layout. Once you draw it out and think you have it right, ask others for their input. There is always something that you will forget, and the more you can put into your plan, the cheaper it is to do the earlier you can plan for it. Sometimes it's really something obvious and silly, other times it's something unique that you didn't even know you wanted. A good example is with me is that I forgot to add a shop sink to my workshop. I had one in my last workshop and used it every day. It's something I absolutley wanted, but forgot about while working on layout, electrical plugs, lighting and door placement. In fact, it wasn't until I was running drain lines that my Mom asked about the shop sink.

Good luck,
Eddie

You are right. That is by far the easiest to use program I have ever used that will produce nice 3 d models in almost no time at all.:D:D:D
 
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WOW!

Thanks, guys.

That other software thread is what got me to thinking about shop layout software.

I downloaded Sketchup quite some time ago but never gave it a fair shake.

I might give that a try as I look for an older version of Broerbund's 3D Home Architect. When I read your posts about it I remembered that I had picked up some software about 10 years ago for my son to use as he remodeled his first home. I had it on a shelf collecting dust and it compared itself favorably to 3D Home Architect. It's called IMSI Floor Plan 3D. It might work and if it doesn't you have given me some great alternatives.

Thanks,

Clem
 
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WOW!

Thanks, guys.

That other software thread is what got me to thinking about shop layout software.

I downloaded Sketchup quite some time ago but never gave it a fair shake.

I might give that a try as I look for an older version of Broerbund's 3D Home Architect. When I read your posts about it I remembered that I had picked up some software about 10 years ago for my son to use as he remodeled his first home. I had it on a shelf collecting dust and it compared itself favorably to 3D Home Architect. It's called IMSI Floor Plan 3D. It might work and if it doesn't you have given me some great alternatives.

Thanks,

Clem

I think I have that program also. It is a good program but the learning curve is way higher that the one with 3-d home architect. They may be out of business, I have been unable to find a new copy.:eek::eek:
 
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I'd have to vote for Sketchup for two reasons...

1) The learning curve is very quick, especially considering how powerful it is.
2) The online database of images other users have built can really speed things up. Not only is this database very large, but it is continually growing.
 

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