1 ton dump truck

[QRTRHRS]

Yup!

I don't mean to digress on the original thread too much but I want to add this. Back in 1974, an excavating contractor I was working for bought a new Diamond Reo tri-axle. Really nice truck. First day or so, one of the owners three sons was driving the new truck. The front tires were big fat floatation tires. They may have looked like a super single but were bias ply. Driver, though no fault of his own actually, picked up a piece of red shale and ruined one of the tires. I forget the size but they switched to the widest, heaviest road tire they could find.

 

[farmboy12]

I don't mean to digress on the original thread too much but I want to add this. Back in 1974, an excavating contractor I was working for bought a new Diamond Reo tri-axle. Really nice truck. First day or so, one of the owners three sons was driving the new truck. The front tires were big fat floatation tires. They may have looked like a super single but were bias ply. Driver, though no fault of his own actually, picked up a piece of red shale and ruined one of the tires. I forget the size but they switched to the widest, heaviest road tire they could find.

That's no fun!


Kyle

 

[QRTRHRS]

That's no fun!


Kyle

Yeah, then the next thing that happened, the fan went through the radiator!

After that was fixed, I got the truck and ran it for 50k miles with no problem until the company went belly up. The truck had a Cummins 270 horse constant torque engine with a Spicer 7 speed transmission. The dealer took the truck back and put it on with his own personal fleet where upon the first day, one of his drivers took out the transmission. Whoops, gotta let those RPM's drop with a constant torque engine! Maybe it's a good thing those went away?

 

[farmboy12]

Yeah, then the next thing that happened, the fan went through the radiator!

After that was fixed, I got the truck and ran it for 50k miles with no problem until the company went belly up. The truck had a Cummins 270 horse constant torque engine with a Spicer 7 speed transmission. The dealer took the truck back and put it on with his own personal fleet where upon the first day, one of his drivers took out the transmission. Whoops, gotta let those RPM's drop with a constant torque engine! Maybe it's a good thing those went away?

Ok, I haven't told anyone one this yet, but I have to now. Two months ago we had an amazing deal on a 2001 Monaco Executive RV, with only 26,000 mi, and we've known the owner for years, and have almost nobody we trust more than him. So, we get it picked up, and he rides with us back home, and he told us the thing has a 500 horse Cummins! That thing is bad. It also has an Allison 6 spd in it. This 25-30,000 lb machine passes cars in the mountains in 6th gear!

Then, on our #1 trip, we scrape off the bottom of the oil pan, causing a $20,000 repair at Cummins. Then, while there, they busted two lights on it, broke the awning, and dented something that somehow causes an air leak-making a loud, uneven, annoying whistle going anymore 20mph. There was also a leak in the plumbing for the bathroom. The owner isn't to blame, it's just our luck that just after we buy it, things went bad. Time to sell!


Kyle

 

[Builder]

Then, on our #1 trip, we scrape off the bottom of the oil pan, causing a $20,000 repair at Cummins. Then, while there, they busted two lights on it, broke the awning, and dented something that somehow causes an air leak-making a loud, uneven, annoying whistle going anymore 20mph. There was also a leak in the plumbing for the bathroom. The owner isn't to blame, it's just our luck that just after we buy it, things went bad. Time to sell!


Kyle

Are you sure your nickname isn't "lucky"?

 

[farmboy12]

The thing was worth $120,000! That's the condition we bought it in. We payed about $45k! We ended up at about $80k. Let's see, $30k repairs, filling all the tanks(fuel, water), $1k for the tow truck it took. That's another story. We were on this small back road where we scraped the oil pan, and the tow truck/rv combo was about 90ft long. On a small back road.

The new cost for this model is-$500k+.

A new Cummins 500hp is-$40k, + install fee.

There is a new model, called the Navigator, with a 525hp standard engine, and 600hp option. Both are Cummins. You gotta be well off to own one. And be a good enough driver to drive one. This thing takes skill. With air brakes, air lift tag, 2 stage jake brake. I've driven it, all 42ft of it, but not far enough to use the jake. The first thing the jake does is drop the gear to 3.


Kyle

 

[husqvarna]

I haul a lot of firewood and I bought a 1995 1-ton F-350 with the 7.3L turbo diesil and dual wheels. It works great for hauling wood. Has 8 foot Rugby dump box that is very heavy duty. Wish it were 4x4 but I put good tires on the back and it does pretty well off-road. Its nice to have another truck around. I don't reccomend buying a truck that was plowed with. These trucks may have low miles but you can bet they were worked really hard. Your better off buying a truck with a few extra miles that has never had a plow on it. Hope this helps.

 

[gerard]

If the risk is misrepresented to the insurance company, then they may have a basis to void the policy if there is a loss.

Now, is this a truck or a trailer?

yes

 

[crashz]

In May I bought a 1987 GMC (grill is from a Chevy) V3500 dump. It has a 6.2L diesel, TH400 auto transmission and four wheel drive. The official reason for owning it is for peronal use around our land and for work chores around my house as well as family and friends. The real reason is that I always wanted one and it kind of nostalgic for me.

It was owned by a farmer prior to me and a local city prior to the farmer. I know the history of the truck and it never had an easy life. It was nearly totaled about a year after it was purchased when a driver was plowing and hit a catch basin, crumpling the right side of the frame. It was fixed many years later and put into use salting school parking lots until it was auctioned off due to sheet metal rot. The farmer put all new fenders, inners, doors and a cab from the south on it. He also used it to carry a salt spreader for a few years. He dumped a ton of money into it, and yet cheaped out on most of the repairs. I'd list them, but it would take far to long. Needless to say it is a road worthy constant project. Besides the purchase price I have invested an additional $1000 so far and have made only one offical load to a friends house. And blew out the exhaust doing so. The laundry list of maintenance tasks fills an 8 x11 sheet of paper, back and front.

The practicallity of the truck is low. Dry weight is around 7000 lbs. GVWR is 10,000 lbs. So realisticaly is can only handle a cubic yard of material depending on the density. A yard looks like a teaspoon of dirt in the back. 3 yards looks right, but the GVW, springs and performance all say its way overloaded.

It has a 10,000 lb GVWR, which allows me to register and insure under normal passenger plates. Commercial registration is required at 10,001. For the money, insurance and resgistration is almost equal, but if I went commercial I would need signs, DOT inspections, a log book, med card, DOT number, fuel users tax records and apportioned plates to travel into NY. Waaaaaay to much hassel for a personal use truck.

Essentially - a 1 ton dump is not a good choice for a work truck unless you absolutley want one and realize the short comings. All one tons are usually pretty thrashed from inexpereinced drivers (non CDL), over loading, and extreme duty for the drive train. Muni trucks even more so. Add in tasks like plowing and sanding, it becomes a challenge just to own the truck and keep it road worthy. I'd say a good 3/4 ton with dump trailer would out perform and cost much less.

Unless you're like me and love to pour your spare cash into old trucks. Its my only vice.

 

[75H2]

I agree with everything you said. I had 86 1 ton dump. It was used for plowing snow at a mall all it's life. When I got it all the sheet metal was rotted away from the salt, but the frame was solid. At 53K it was all used up. It was fun to play with, but with a 350 4 speed it was so underpowered even when empty the usefulness just wasn't there.

Still fun to have a little dump truck however

In May I bought a 1987 GMC (grill is from a Chevy) V3500 dump. It has a 6.2L diesel, TH400 auto transmission and four wheel drive. The official reason for owning it is for peronal use around our land and for work chores around my house as well as family and friends. The real reason is that I always wanted one and it kind of nostalgic for me.

It was owned by a farmer prior to me and a local city prior to the farmer. I know the history of the truck and it never had an easy life. It was nearly totaled about a year after it was purchased when a driver was plowing and hit a catch basin, crumpling the right side of the frame. It was fixed many years later and put into use salting school parking lots until it was auctioned off due to sheet metal rot. The farmer put all new fenders, inners, doors and a cab from the south on it. He also used it to carry a salt spreader for a few years. He dumped a ton of money into it, and yet cheaped out on most of the repairs. I'd list them, but it would take far to long. Needless to say it is a road worthy constant project. Besides the purchase price I have invested an additional $1000 so far and have made only one offical load to a friends house. And blew out the exhaust doing so. The laundry list of maintenance tasks fills an 8 x11 sheet of paper, back and front.

The practicallity of the truck is low. Dry weight is around 7000 lbs. GVWR is 10,000 lbs. So realisticaly is can only handle a cubic yard of material depending on the density. A yard looks like a teaspoon of dirt in the back. 3 yards looks right, but the GVW, springs and performance all say its way overloaded.

It has a 10,000 lb GVWR, which allows me to register and insure under normal passenger plates. Commercial registration is required at 10,001. For the money, insurance and resgistration is almost equal, but if I went commercial I would need signs, DOT inspections, a log book, med card, DOT number, fuel users tax records and apportioned plates to travel into NY. Waaaaaay to much hassel for a personal use truck.

Essentially - a 1 ton dump is not a good choice for a work truck unless you absolutley want one and realize the short comings. All one tons are usually pretty thrashed from inexpereinced drivers (non CDL), over loading, and extreme duty for the drive train. Muni trucks even more so. Add in tasks like plowing and sanding, it becomes a challenge just to own the truck and keep it road worthy. I'd say a good 3/4 ton with dump trailer would out perform and cost much less.

Unless you're like me and love to pour your spare cash into old trucks. Its my only vice.