Kubota RTV and CAR Accident.

[radioman]

I just read this whole post. While OP is trying to help his brother, thier previous research seemed logical until something else happens. Its time to get a lawyer and see where he stands and start implementing changes needed to be "more" legal. I also feel its time to be quiet and just pay the other driver damage out of his own pocket becuase down the road, his kubota insurance can up and cancel his coverage or send a new letter saying what he can and cant do with it. No need to create a issue for future UTV owners becuase of a previous one or two bad situations.

It doesn't matter if the cop did his job or not, I beleive he did it as neutral as he can and there is a "documented both parties equally at fault". I'd take it as it is and be done with it and chalk it as something learned.

It looks like he got away with this one and its good. no one was hurt, no one is ready to sue for something big. good luck, I hope there is a viable solution to all of this.

 

[Low Bucket]

I would hire an Attorney and never seek advice off the Internet again.-Especially from a tractor forum.

Second thing is that the kid in the other vehicle is a highschool kid on his way to highschool, which is still about 35min away from where the accident occurred. The accident was at 7:15 and the highschools around here start @ 7:30. Do the math, he was in a big hurry.

If I was risking others lives I'd find another way. This is kind of like saying it's okay for the drunk at the bar to drive home.

Read the above post.- There's your problem.- A high school kid.

He was risking others lives & his when he passed this guy turning left.- The guy had his signal light on.

HOW is that risking others lives?

His brother also had insurance.- Did you read that?

 

[kenstrac]

I would hire an Attorney and never seek advice off the Internet again.-Especially from a tractor forum.




Read the above post.- There's your problem.- A high school kid.

He was risking others lives & his when he passed this guy turning left.- The guy had his signal light on.

HOW is that risking others lives?

His brother also had insurance.- Did you read that?

Yes read the post easy enough to blame the KID.

The part that I need advice on is that they sited my brother. The other driver claimed my brother signaled too late but knowing my brother he always signals way too soon. The cop based the sitation on 3 reasons
1. He said that with the flashers on, when you turn the signals on it is very difficult to see the signal.
2. SMV signs allow drivers to pass anywhere, even on a double yellow
3. My brother struck the other car in the passenger door area, instead of being t-boned, which means that the car was already beside him.

He has the kubota insurance, which only covers the RTV after the $500 deductible and his grange ins only covers offroad mishaps, NOT onroad. He has not contacted grange yet as they weren't open yet.

Also sounds like he had collision and not LIABILTY.

BTW I guess the KID had a DRIVERS LICENSE and INSURANCE.
That's more than the OP's brother had!
No license, No insurance,Poor eyesight,Vehicle was not in compliance with the intent of the Law, bring that before a judge and see what that gets you.

 

[LBrown59]

BTW I guess the KID had a DRIVERS LICENSE and INSURANCE.
That's more than the OP's brother had!
No license, No insurance,Poor eyesight,Vehicle was not in compliance with the intent of the Law, bring that before a judge and see what that gets you.

And the kid could loose both.
Try that with the brother .
He hain't got either one of them.

 

[schmism]

He is legally blind and has been riding a under 50cc moped two miles to his work for the last several years as he can never get a license due to his vision.

one would have to ask what is the wisdom of the state in not allowing a legally blind person to operate a motorized vehicular on public roads?

If it was my brother/father/friend id be advising the person to not drive ANYTHING on the road period, for his sake and the sake of others.

what happens next time he doesn't see the truck/van/bus/tractor coming? Shure him being killed is regrettable, but the minivan full of soccer mom and 4 kids he also killed is down right tragic.

I wouldnt want to have that on MY concisious next time i advise him on what car-that-isnt-a-car to dive on the public roads.

 

[20 20]

I would hire an Attorney and never seek advice off the Internet again.-Especially from a tractor forum.

I don't think he was seeking advice, more like asking opinions. In my opinion there are some good pointers on here. After all don't ALL LAWS in this country effect us including yourself. The problem is that any time something happens the people turn their heads and say get a lawyer, no wonder the justice system STINKS! I'm glad he shared the story and hope he was ready for all comments not just the sugar coated ones??????

Read the above post.- There's your problem.- A high school kid.

He was risking others lives & his when he passed this guy turning left.- The guy had his signal light on.

So what are you saying, all HS kids are bad ? I know HS kids that have better driving habbits then some "adults" ! The HS kid said his blinker was not on when he started to pass legally. This is where the police officer should have investigated!!! One driver said yes blinker was on the other said it was not. The officer did say it was on after the accident, that proves nothing{he could have flipped the switch during or even after finishing the turn}. The RTV also slamed into the SIDE of the car so that means the car was allready there. Once again the RTV operator said he was not comfortable driving a car because he can NOT see all that well.

HOW is that risking others lives?

I know guys that don't act drunk{when drinking} and know they can not safely operate a motor vehicle, maybe they should get dirt bikes?

His brother also had insurance.- Did you read that?

I think you need to reread the post, you're missing some points.

 

[riptides]

If it can't be fixed / don't try to use it .

We are talking about sight here. Obviously you have NO idea what limited vision is about.

 

[Low Bucket]

My brother was in an accident this morning with a car while he was driving his RTV to work. He is fine and the other guy is fine just two damaged vehichles and I would like some opinions and **advice** on what he should do.

He wants opinions and **ADVICE.**

The part that I need **advice on** is that they sited my brother. The other driver claimed my brother signaled too late.

He's seeking**ADVICE.**

The other driver is an inexperienced high-school student.

He has the kubota insurance, which only covers the RTV after the $500 deductible and his grange ins only covers offroad mishaps, NOT onroad. He has not contacted grange yet as they weren't open yet.

The OP said his brother had/has insurance.

On a couple of positive notes
1. The officer never said anything about the rtv not being road leagal and didn't say anything about him not having a license.

Since the officer never said anything about him driving the RTV on the highway. Then his brother wasn't breaking any laws by driving on the road.

But all of that doesnt matter. His insurance company is going to investigate the accident and will pay if they deem my brother @ fault, and they said they would pursue the other ins company if they deem that the other guy was at fault. So either way they are covering him.

The OP again said his brother had/has insurance.

I don't think he was seeking advice, more like asking opinions.

He is seeking opinions and advice.

He said twice that he needed **ADVICE.** - Did you see that?

So what are you saying, all HS kids are bad ?

Bad what?- Drivers?

95.5% of HS drivers are the worse drivers.-All they know is where the fuel pedal is.

The HS kid said his blinker was not on when he started to pass legally.

Inexperienced driver.

The HS kid will say anything.-The kid was probably driving mom or dads car, and would probably tell a lie to keep his parents from taking away his driving privileges.-But, he could have his D.L. taken away, and his parents insurance company will raise the rates now.

This is where the police officer should have investigated!!!

One driver said yes blinker was on the other said it was not. The officer did say it was on after the accident, that **proves nothing**{he could have flipped the switch during or even after finishing the turn}.

The police officer *Should Have*, but he didn't.

Proves nothing?- Well at least the signal light was on for the officer to see.

I think you need to reread the post, you're missing some points.

You said that statement because of I mentioned insurance.- I'm going by what the OP said about his brothers insurance- He said his brother had insurance.

Reread the post?

I think you need to reread the whole thread.- You said the OP was NOT seeking advice.- But he mentioned **ADVICE** twice in his post.

Reread, You're missing some important points!

Oh, Did you read what time the accident happened?- And how long it takes for this HS kid to get to school?

 

[Low Bucket]

Yes read the post easy enough to blame the KID.

Well if the KID would have waited until this guy made his left turn, then the accident wouldn't have happened. -But no, this KID just had to pass.

BTW I guess the KID had a DRIVERS LICENSE and INSURANCE.

That's correct.

He HAD a drivers license and insurance.- I wonder how long that will last?

 

[kenstrac]

Well if the KID would have waited until this guy made his left turn, then the accident wouldn't have happened. -But no, this KID just had to pass.




That's correct.

He HAD a drivers license and insurance.- I wonder how long that will last?

I must be missing something here!
NO LICENCE
POOR VISION
NOT LEGAL ACCORDING TO STATE LAW AS FOR THE USE OF THE VIECHLE

OP said he checked the law very carefully, and could find no problems, yet it took me 3 min to find the Ohio laws that says it's not legal.
I guess in WV you don't follow the laws,AND why are you so intent on crucifying the KID.
I suppose in WV they let Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller drive