3520 VS. 3720

   / 3520 VS. 3720 #11  
Yeah, There are two different worlds sepperating my Yanmar from my Gandpa's JohnDeere 2210. It seems once I get used to on type of tranny I have to go use the other. Sometimes I look for the clutch on the 2210 and look for the hydro pedal on my Yanmar. It takes some getting used to. Anyway, my Dad has a 3720. I can admit that It has spun its tires a few times but I do my best to keep weight in the back. I am not to fond of the R4 tires in the fields and on the hills but it is a nice little tractor. Now ive never driven a 3520, I almost did once but drove a skidsteer instead. It seems that when my Dad has his CT322 track skidsteer at home, that is the machine of choice over the 3720 as it is way more stable on the hillsides, has 22 more hp, and it can lift more. All in all though, I can say gear tranny has more torque to it but the 3720 has been a good tractor for my dad.
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #12  
i would love to drive one of those 6000 series tractors they look totally cool
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #13  
I have had two 3720 tractors, and have been pretty happy with both of them. Both were the open station machines as I do not have an indoor place to store a cab tractor. I have previously been a "get the biggest or most powerful machine" in a given class, but have matured a bit from that. I also have more experience in these machines and have found similar findings to those initially noted. The 3720 is a nice tractor, but it really will not outwork a 3520. I can think of no instance where the extra power of a 3720 really makes a difference except in all day super high load PTO work, which really none of us do that much--if at all. John Deere, being a smart company, has marketed these high horsepower machines as being a smaller alternative to the next larger series and people have gone for it. When I bought my first 3720, I priced it quite close to a 4120, but still went with the higher HP 3720. After I had owned a 4520 and used a 4120, I realized the 4000 series are certainly more capable and really should have been my choice previously at the time. The same applies IMO with the 2020 to 3020 jump. The more powerful 2020 machines approach the price of the lower 3000 series machines, but are not as heavy duty. The short of this is that if one is looking for the best deal possible, it is often better to look one model below the flagship in each of the JD lines. These machines often are quite a bit less pricey, opening up saving money v. getting an extra attachment or some extra features and the actual real world performance is essentially nil. My personal example of this is the first 3720 I had v the 4310 I had prior. In pulling a 72" RFM mowing a large field I found the 3720 to have no trouble mowing very deep, thick grass. It would, in fact, pull the mower so well one could smell the belt burning. The RPM's never changed. The 4310, pulling the same mower but with 10 less PTO HP (same physical size) would do----the exact same thing. No bog, belt smell, whole thing....This attuned me to the fact that extra power is helpful, but frequently more is a bragging right than a true performance enhancer, especially when the numbers are close and especially when dealing with turbocharged machines such as the 3520 and 3720.

John M
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #14  
John M,

I agree with most of this and would add that in most cases that attempting to run at maximum power sustained is more difficult than it would appear. To get the engine in most vehicles to maximum power without putting it in overload and maintaining the proper rpm's for any durattion is very difficult.

Likewise small horsepower differences are hard to translate into real differences in tractor performance. For instance I am not sure if I could tell the difference between a 4520 and 4720 right away, and am sure the 3520 and 3720 comparison is similar.
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #15  
It is true that the power needs to be matched with the traction. That is why I have all 4 tires filled on my 3720. I also live in Oregon and don't have bad problems with the slick clay mud, even though I have R4s. Unless I go into middle of a wet field, then I would be stuck for certain, but any tractor would be stuck there. I find the power delivery to be very controlled. I also almost never run it without the loader and either the backhoe or a filled ballast box so that probably makes a large difference as well.

I thought about a 4x20 but I already have a 2355, which has equivalent power to a 4520 but with a bigger, heavier frame. I wanted this tractor for around the farm utility work and getting into the wooded areas. The 3720 turned out to be a perfect match for my needs and has enough power to run some ground implements, the backhoe and be a backup unit for my 8" chipper (which I usually have on the 2355).

I do like the sound of the 4x20 and my 2355 MUCH better than the 3x20. The bigger 4 cylinders have a much more pleasant throatier roar to them.
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720
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#16  
Thanks for all of the responses. I should have noted that the 3720 had calcium filled r-1 ag tires and I always had a box blade or straight on the back also which added 400 lbs. The comparison may not be apples to apples with the weight of the cab on the 3520. Though the point I was trying to make is John Deere really giving you an extra 3K $ of HP on the 3720?
I think not... it is a phenomenal machine but a 3520 will do all of the same work and that 3k could be put elsewhere. I really wanted a 4000 series but could not afford it and the cab, but they are definetely more machine than a 3000 series.

Has any one crankep up the IP and turbo on a 3520 and added an intercooler therefore making it equal to a 3720?
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #17  
...the point I was trying to make is John Deere really giving you an extra 3K $ of HP on the 3720?

Has any one crankep up the IP and turbo on a 3520 and added an intercooler therefore making it equal to a 3720?

I suspect that if you purchased the parts from Deere, you would come close to the difference in initial purchase price.
By the way, when I purchased mine, the difference between the 3520 and 3720 was only about 2k, at final price.

I mainly went with the 3720 because I wanted to use it to run my 8" hydraulic feed chipper. In that application, the extra power is quite useful.
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #18  
I have never owned anything and said to myself "This thing needs less power".:D
 
   / 3520 VS. 3720 #19  
I have the 3720 with a number of implements. Forks,front end loader, backhoe 7 foot box scrapper. All of which I believe any of the 3000 series units would run just fine. But I also have a water pump, 19 KW generator, and a wood chipper. Because of the size of these three units I did need the extra PTO power back there to run these units. When I bought the tractor I divided the cost of the machine by the HP of each 3000 series machine. Interesting turned out I got more HP for a little bit less money per horse power money spent. I guess it all depends on our needs. Mostly when doing snow removal and most dirt or stone loading I do not run this machine much over 1800 but when using the PTO I am full throttle. The water pump I can run at less but will not pump the 150 gallons per minute the pump is capable of. The 19 kw generator needs all the power as there is only 1 or 2 horse power in reserve to turn the unit if it is putting out its full potential. Wood chipper is much the same I run the machine at full throttle when chipping with the unit I am using. It all comes down to what you use your machine for. So the good reason the manufacture turns out so many different machines. We all have our needs in mind when buying so hopefully we do it right the first time. My only mistake, I bought open station first time around, then traded 1100 hours later for a full cab. Both machines excellent for my needs and likely will never have to buy another if it lasts as well as the machines of the past.
 

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