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[MtnViewRanch]

ok how about a standard issue bucket on a 60 hp tractor thats not a piece of **** . it kinda rediculous to have to by a heavy duty bucket just to have something that the tractor wont totally destroy.

Something that many of us forget or do not realize is that the loaders that we have on most of our tractors are not really engineered to go out and dig virgin soil and or rocks etc. Look at any of the sales brochures, they always show a guy or girl moving loose material. I have not seen any that show someone digging material out of the side of a hill. None of the AG type tractors have truly heavy duty loaders. Sure you can get a heavier duty bucket to handle rock-gravel etc, but why supply a heaver bucket std when all that you are going to use it for is loose soil, wood chips etc. If you are going to handle heavier- rougher material, then that is when you get a heavy duty bucket. I don't think that any of the loader OEMs offer a tooth bar? So most likely, those of us that use a bucket with some sort of extra biting ability are actually over burdening our loaders.

What I wish that they would do is give you an option of what type of bucket you want instead of just giving you the light weight thing that they seem to come with. Maybe that is an option and most of the dealers just don't do it or even know about it, but it would be nice. Come to think about it, JD, Kubota, and MF offer different buckets, I don't know about any of the others.

 

[chevyman29]

i just think it would be appropriat to offer a bucket as standard eqiup that doesnt bend or warp doing what the tractor is capable of doing . for the record i bent mine sraping up loose dirt and debrise . to me thats bullcrap . dont get me wrong i love my JD but i paid good money for this machine i shouldnt have to pay extra for a bucket strong enough to be on the tractor in the first place.

 

[jake98]

for the record i bent mine sraping up loose dirt and debrise . to me thats bullcrap .

to me too.. all of it.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

i just think it would be appropriat to offer a bucket as standard eqiup that doesnt bend or warp doing what the tractor is capable of doing . for the record i bent mine sraping up loose dirt and debrise . to me thats bullcrap . dont get me wrong i love my JD but i paid good money for this machine i shouldnt have to pay extra for a bucket strong enough to be on the tractor in the first place.

Just curious, is that bucket made with 1/8", 5/32" or 3/16" metal. The thin buckets are why I beefed up the ones I use most on my tractors before I ever used them for anything.

 

[chevyman29]

i dont have any idea with out measuring . its pretty flimsy though its the 73'' light duty bucket . ive got a 73'' heavy duty with tooth bar on the way .

 

[RobertN]

TnT is something, since building a setup a few years ago for my tractor, that I could not imagine being without. I have a lot of hilly and off camber area's that I deal with though; I am always making adjustments.

I think that not enough people have or use "TnT" to have it as a standard thing.

 

[chevyman29]

jake i assume by ur qoute you doubt my word ? and thats your right . but seeing as how you wasnt there whenever it happend you really dont no **** about it do ya.

 

[jinman]

TnT is something, since building a setup a few years ago for my tractor, that I could not imagine being without. I have a lot of hilly and off camber area's that I deal with though; I am always making adjustments.

Robert, I agree with you completely. On old Fords, Fergusons, and Massey's at least (probably many others) all the operator had to do was swivel around in the seat and easily adjust the tilt with a handcrank or the toplink with the jackscrew in the middle. When the newer tractors started coming out with the raised flat operator platforms and some even with fuel tanks behind the operator (like my NH TC45D), the ability to turn around and adjust the 3PH is now gone. Getting on and off the tractor to do that is a killer to my body and my productivity. Being able to adjust on-the-fly is a terrific aid. I suspect the success of TnT as witnessed by its popular growth on TBN and other tractor forums will certainly drive it to becoming a common option like remote hydraulics. It will initially be expensive of course but may become so popular that it becomes a "deluxe" option package standard. I know, I know, I just said "option package standard" which is an oxymoron, but I think you get my meaning.

Brian, New Holland's QA buckets are all heavy duty. Only the pin-on buckets have the standard and heavy duty option. You could make the argument that NH's buckets are all not really heavy duty, but I have never bent either of my two buckets doing some pretty heavy work that includes digging rocks and cutting/pulling stumps. I have always had either a bolt-on edge or toothbar attached which greatly strengthens the cutting edge. On my larger 72" bucket, I did have some welds in the inside heel portion of the bucket break, but I welded those back up and have had no more problem. Certainly none of our buckets can hold a candle to the truly heavy duty classification of industrial loaders, dozers, and TLBs. I think our manufacturers try to keep their bucket weights well below 400 lb. A truly heavy duty industrial 72" bucket probably would weigh 600 to 700 pounds and reduce our lift capacity, particularly in the under-30 hp tractors.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

TnT is something, since building a setup a few years ago for my tractor, that I could not imagine being without. I have a lot of hilly and off camber area's that I deal with though; I am always making adjustments.

Robert, I agree, I can not see how anybody can get any type of grading done without them. That is why I have "TnT" on both of my Mahindras. But until I see them being as popular as box blades, I do not see them being offered from all the tractor manufacturers. I believe that JD and Kubota have their own sets as an option, and from what I have seen they are 2-3 times more $$$$ than an aftermarket set.

I just don't see them ever being standard on most tractors. When I go to the AG shows, I have asked some of the people there about them, most don't even know what I'm talking about and I have to explain what they are and what the purpose is. My thinking would be that they become a more common thing and dealers offer them instead of having to be asked about them.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Jim, that makes sense, NH SS buckets only come heavy duty. As, far as the "TnT", that makes sense also. The manufacturers that have different levels of tractors with the same HP, upper level tractors would come with "TnT" as std equipment.

I feel that the best that we could ever hope for, would be that the tractor manufacturers offer "TnT" as an option for a reasonable price.