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   / Global Warming News #611  
My opinion on Fox News rating - Their coverage and commentary is unique - most of the other "unfair and unbalanced" stations share the rest of the audience.


On constitutionality of Health Care - it doesn't appear that there has been a constitutional question with medicare and medicade.

CONSTITUTIONALITY OF HEALTH CARE REFORM

Seems that since the current bill is working within the for-profit system that there is debate on whether people should be able to be fined for not buying insurance.

How can insurance companies be forced to accept all unless everyone is required to carry insurance?

What reform is suggested by those who want to throw this out and start over. We could continue with the lead taken by the congress and administration of the prior 8 years and do little. Costs are going up by double digit percentages per year and it is killing business. What small business can afford 5-15 thousand per employee for family coverage and what average employee can afford it without help.

Loren




Loren
 
   / Global Warming News #612  
1. Tort reform.
2. Remove state boundries for insurance providers. let them compete.

Not easy to do either, but will begin the process of good reform, with bipartisian support. It might just fly through both congress, and senate on it's own without backroom deals, unions, and states given exemptions.


"My opinion on Fox News rating - Their coverage and commentary is unique - most of the other "unfair and unbalanced" stations share the rest of the audience. "

Election night was running 5 to 1, fox viewers. That 1 was shared by all the other news stations.
 
   / Global Warming News #613  
All I have seen have anecdotal comments about how good European countries health care systems are. I have not seen any in depth analyses of each system. Also, if their systems are so good why did not our congress critters invite their representatives over to talk about what works well and what does not. Are they containing costs or running deficits. It would be interesting to see polls of the citizens of those countries as to what they think. It might be revealing :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Vernon
 
   / Global Warming News #614  
Actually, there was a reporter who spent several years investigating the rest of the industrialized world's health care systems. The simple summary, all the major ones worked better than ours at a much lower cost. All the complaints of the French system, for example, could be covered by increasing taxes to a level where health care would still cost much less than what health care costs here. But the French were not willing to do so because they received good health care. It was a very interesting hour long interview with comments from drs, patients, etc in these countries. His basic conclusion was that any system (gov. insurance/gov. health, gov. insurance/private health, private insurance/government health, private insurance/private health) worked as long as the insurance companies were all government or non-profit with government oversight.

In Germany I believe it was, most of the private non-profit insurance companies were divisions of for profit insurance companies. Everyone was required to have insurance. When asked, the insurance companies said it was a great system since they competed strongly for the clients because if you provided them with affordable good health care, they would purchase their mortgage, life insurance from the same place. The patients were happy. The drs felt underpaid.

The only system that seemed not to work was employer based health insurance with little oversight of for-profit insurance companies.

Ken
 
   / Global Warming News #615  
2. Remove state boundries for insurance providers. let them compete.


I'm not sure letting the insurance companies do to health care what the banks did with/ to credit lending is such a bright idea.
 
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Actually, there was a reporter who spent several years investigating the rest of the industrialized world's health care systems. The simple summary, all the major ones worked better than ours at a much lower cost. All the complaints of the French system, for example, could be covered by increasing taxes to a level where health care would still cost much less than what health care costs here. But the French were not willing to do so because they received good health care. It was a very interesting hour long interview with comments from drs, patients, etc in these countries. His basic conclusion was that any system (gov. insurance/gov. health, gov. insurance/private health, private insurance/government health, private insurance/private health) worked as long as the insurance companies were all government or non-profit with government oversight.

In Germany I believe it was, most of the private non-profit insurance companies were divisions of for profit insurance companies. Everyone was required to have insurance. When asked, the insurance companies said it was a great system since they competed strongly for the clients because if you provided them with affordable good health care, they would purchase their mortgage, life insurance from the same place. The patients were happy. The drs felt underpaid.

The only system that seemed not to work was employer based health insurance with little oversight of for-profit insurance companies.

Ken

I think this was the Frontline segment:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld

I agree it was timely and informative and it's available for viewing online.

I think that most who oppose the current proposals do so for ideological reasons. Their position seemingly questions whether the problem exists and so consequently there are no lessons to learn.
 
   / Global Warming News #617  
There is talk about putting in a 500MW windmill farm in NY. Can't remember where, heard it on the news, I'll see if I can find it.

The ME cost has excellent wind conditions. There must be much higher costs involved with operating offshore though. I'm guessing with scale though, the net pluses have to be there.
 
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I'm not sure letting the insurance companies do to health care what the banks did with/ to credit lending is such a bright idea.

So what would be the difference, auto insurance is sold cross state lines. :confused:
 
   / Global Warming News #619  
My opinion on Fox News rating - Their coverage and commentary is unique - most of the other "unfair and unbalanced" stations share the rest of the audience.


On constitutionality of Health Care - it doesn't appear that there has been a constitutional question with medicare and medicade.

CONSTITUTIONALITY OF HEALTH CARE REFORM

Seems that since the current bill is working within the for-profit system that there is debate on whether people should be able to be fined for not buying insurance.

How can insurance companies be forced to accept all unless everyone is required to carry insurance?

What reform is suggested by those who want to throw this out and start over. We could continue with the lead taken by the congress and administration of the prior 8 years and do little. Costs are going up by double digit percentages per year and it is killing business. What small business can afford 5-15 thousand per employee for family coverage and what average employee can afford it without help.

Loren




Loren

Thank you so much for bring this document to my attention. I had no idea that JANET RENO and WEBSTER HUBBELL were saying that BILL CLINTONs health care proposal was constitutional.
Setting aside the sterling reputation of both these people(is Hubbell out of prison yet?), is your reference to Medicaid and Medicare is somehow to negate my point that it is unconstitutional?

I repeat, we do not live in a democracy, and if you do not understand the difference between one and our form of government, then you really should inform yourself.
Even if one were to entertain the notion that the majority is in favor, In a representative republic, you cannot take rights from one person to give to another.
 
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